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Comparison Test: 2007-2008 Sport Sedans - This is exactly why we gathered this group of sport sedans. That is, to find out if the 2008 Cadillac CTS, 2007 Infiniti G35 Sport, 2008 Lexus IS 350 or 2008 Mercedes-Benz C350 Sport can topple the Bavarian champ — the 2007 BMW 335i. In the spirit of the segment, each car in the test is outfitted with sport package hardware — usually a stiffer suspension and bigger wheels and tires — and an automatic transmission. (more)
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Replying to: drewsrx (Nov 03, 2007 4:39 pm) They said: Ultimately the G35 is probably the most capable-handling car in the segment, but most drivers will never be able to access its difficult-to-achieve limits. Also, the G35 and 335i both got a personal rating of 90%, What car they would buy if money were no object. That is pretty amazing, and the G35 cost almost $10k less! One would have to pay 27% more in price for the 335i for just 2% more in performance over the G35. Very interesting indeed! Even in the Second Opionions sidenote, the editor picked the G35. Infiniti did a really fine job with this product. Like they said in the article regarding the 335i: Plus, all great performances must come to an end sometime. Great job Infiniti! 
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Replying to: drewsrx (Nov 04, 2007 6:47 am) That said, what's missing is a six speed transmission and better mpg.
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Replying to: drewsrx (Nov 04, 2007 6:47 am) But I will definitely see what that difference is for myself. Perhaps BMW has provided the next target in the 1 series.  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: carnaught (Nov 04, 2007 6:58 am) You know the funny thing is, this is what Edmunds said: ...through the best automatic transmission in the class. The G's five-speed tranny not only responds quickest to the throttle, but also has the sharpest, most aggressive gearchanges (with rev-matched downshifts) of any automatic we've ever driven. And it feels as comfortable while blasting between gears with hard-hitting precision at full throttle as it does swapping cogs with a simple switch and slide in commuter traffic. Even though the G had the least number of gears, they thought it had the best transmission in the test. Amazing! But, I have heard that Nissan is working on a 7-Speed automatic. My guess is that DSG from the GT-R is going to find its way into the Infiniti lineup. For a performance oriented brand that would be the next most logical step. |
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Replying to: drewsrx (Nov 04, 2007 6:47 am) Probably? One would have to pay 27% more in price for the 335i for just 2% more in performance over the G35. Very interesting indeed! Not dissing the G35, but the last I looked the 3 series sold about 106K ytd while the G series sold about 60K ytd. Now BMW has a zillion models while the G series has a few variants and not every car BMW sold was a 335. However the difference in sales numbers is interesting considering Nissan could swallow BMW. To repeat, I don't understand how the 335 trumps the G37 but not the G35, unless this concept called value weighs in heavily. In addition the 335 has the fastest shifting transmission in the group and better gas mileage.
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Nov 04, 2007 8:40 am) I always find it humorous that people like to throw out sales numbers as a defense. The 3-Series has 12 different variants compared to the G which has 3. Plus, the 3-Series has a 32 year history in the US, and BMW has more cachet. Of course BMW is going to sell twice as many cars as Infiniti, anyone can see that. Infiniti was basically an anonymous company until people noticed them in 2002. Nissan doesn't have the ability or the cash to take on BMW overnight. A G37x is in the works along with a drop-top version, but that still won't be enough to take over 3-Series sales. They have a lot of other issues to deal with, like going global and starting sales of their cars in Europe in 2008. They are also lacking a true flagship and they are busy with the new EX and the redesigned FX is coming in 2009. They have a lot of things on the table right now. The 3-Series is going to be the sales leader in this segment for a long time to come for various reasons, but the fact remains, the G35 won this comparison test.
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Replying to: drewsrx (Nov 04, 2007 10:22 am) I find it interesting when sales numbers are totally ignored. but the fact remains, the G35 won this comparison test. Yeah, on value. :confuse Like it won some other comparos.
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Nov 04, 2007 10:31 am) Like they said, the G35 won because it was the best combination performance, luxury, and value.
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Replying to: drewsrx (Nov 04, 2007 2:49 pm) So while the G35 may have the best combination of performance, luxury and value, the 3 series, the benchmark, is selling twice as many ytd as the G. The reality check is the buying American public. Somewhere the opinions of these reviews are not translating into sales. Maybe because of the stiff competition. I don't know.
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Nov 04, 2007 8:40 am) The cars tested in this new comparison had automatic transmissions. The G35 with manual transmission that I drove suffered from horrible artificial rev-hanging, overly touchy throttle tip in, and an on-off clutch that took most of the joy out of driving an otherwise very nice sporty sedan. Hardly competitive with the 335i in my opinion. I suspected back then that the automatic transmission version would be a much closer competitor to the BMW 3-series. If I were shopping AT's in this segment, I too would be hard-pressed to pay extra for the BMW. fedlawman, "Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans" #7262, 26 Dec 2006 11:01 am |
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