Article Comments - Comparison Test: 2007-2008 Sport Sedans

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Comparison Test: 2007-2008 Sport Sedans - This is exactly why we gathered this group of sport sedans. That is, to find out if the 2008 Cadillac CTS, 2007 Infiniti G35 Sport, 2008 Lexus IS 350 or 2008 Mercedes-Benz C350 Sport can topple the Bavarian champ — the 2007 BMW 335i. In the spirit of the segment, each car in the test is outfitted with sport package hardware — usually a stiffer suspension and bigger wheels and tires — and an automatic transmission. (more)

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#357 of 475 Re: Car and Driver weighs in... [drtravel] by circlew Dec 03, 2007 (9:14 am)
Replying to: drtravel (Dec 03, 2007 9:02 am) You are right. Is there anything wrong with this new version of the G or the CTS? I assume they can't be perfect. Regards, OW Replies to this message: drtravel (Dec 03, 2007 2:39 pm)
#358 of 475 Re: Car and Driver weighs in... [circlew] by drtravel Dec 03, 2007 (2:39 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Dec 03, 2007 9:14 am) Is there anything wrong with this new version of the G or the CTS? I don't own either so I really can't be of much help here. Didn't own their previous incarnations either. If I did, I would be more than willing to share. I've yet to own a perfect car although I keep hoping.............
#359 of 475 Re: A Few Observations... [drtravel] by kdshapiro Dec 03, 2007 (3:25 pm)
Replying to: drtravel (Dec 03, 2007 8:57 am) Okay. I hated the way I had to turn off the climate control. That was the extent of the criticism. The car fit me like a glove. One quality issue relating to the radio, AM reception stunk. I wish the back seat was bigger, but then I bought a 3 series, not a 5 series. Replies to this message: adamr001 (Dec 03, 2007 5:51 pm) kdshapiro (Dec 03, 2007 6:45 pm) drtravel (Dec 04, 2007 8:49 pm) circlew (Dec 05, 2007 3:53 am) and 16 more... adamr001 (Dec 05, 2007 5:41 am) drtravel (Dec 04, 2007 9:02 pm) drtravel (Dec 04, 2007 8:58 pm) kdshapiro (Dec 05, 2007 3:34 am) drtravel (Dec 05, 2007 10:44 am) adamr001 (Dec 05, 2007 5:45 am) drtravel (Dec 05, 2007 10:47 am)
#360 of 475 Re: A Few Observations... [kdshapiro] by adamr001 Dec 03, 2007 (5:51 pm)
Replying to: kdshapiro (Dec 03, 2007 3:25 pm) On my 07 g35 6mt... I hate that the air flow mode (recirculation vs. venting) ALWAYS goes back to Venting when you put climate control in auto-mode. I live in a city. The last thing I want is to suck the diesel fumes of the bus in front of me into the cabin of the car. I also dislike the fact that I had to disable the laser detector on my ValentineOne because the ICC kept setting it off. Let's see... I hate parking it outside? She's just too pretty to sit outside even at work! I didn't like VDC at all until I had the ECU reprogrammed, now I love it! I love the fact that I can sit comfortably in the back seat with the driver's seat in the position where I would use it! Lots of room! Oh wait, we're supposed to be picking bad things... I dislike that there is one and ONLY one way to get MP3s onto the onboard hard drive and that the ONLY such method is a huge pita / timesink. It would be wonderful if i could just copy from Compact Flash. I mean, having CF is kind of a gimmick without that feature... The hard drive needs to be bigger. The MP3 encoder should allow for reasonable / modern bit rates instead of capping at 132 bit. I hate the fact that I was FORCED to get a sunroof as it is mandatory with the Premium package (which has such key features as bluetooth, heated seats, MP3 stereo ability). That's all I can think of at the moment. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Dec 03, 2007 6:45 pm) drtravel (Dec 04, 2007 8:49 pm) circlew (Dec 05, 2007 3:53 am) adamr001 (Dec 05, 2007 5:51 am) and 15 more... adamr001 (Dec 05, 2007 5:41 am) drtravel (Dec 04, 2007 9:02 pm)
#361 of 475 Re: A Few Observations... [adamr001] by kdshapiro Dec 03, 2007 (6:45 pm)
Replying to: adamr001 (Dec 03, 2007 5:51 pm) I had buyers remorse as soon as bought the car. I should've gone for the M3. I hated the way people came up to me and drolled all over it. I hated parking it outside. I hated the grin I had while driving it. I hated listening to the sweet sound of the engine. I'll think of some more.
#362 of 475 Re: A Few Observations... [adamr001] by drtravel Dec 04, 2007 (8:49 pm)
Replying to: adamr001 (Dec 03, 2007 5:51 pm) I dislike that there is one and ONLY one way to get MP3s onto the onboard hard drive I use this gadget (not sure the technical name) that permits me to plug in a USB drive or ipod and then sends a wireless signal to the radio at some unused FM frequency. Power comes from the lighter. Works great in all cars - even those I don't own. Similar to the nav system you take with you. In fact, I read somewhere that having a built-in nav system actually has a negative impact on the resale value. Seems that in three years (or more) when people buy these cars, they are not interested in spending extra money for the nav system. There's also the obsolescence factor. Compare nav systems that are four or five years old with those available now. Replies to this message: circlew (Dec 05, 2007 3:53 am) adamr001 (Dec 05, 2007 5:51 am) kdshapiro (Dec 05, 2007 7:14 am) and 14 more... adamr001 (Dec 05, 2007 5:41 am)
#363 of 475 Re: A Few Observations... [kdshapiro] by drtravel Dec 04, 2007 (8:58 pm)
Replying to: kdshapiro (Dec 03, 2007 3:25 pm) The car fit me like a glove. Have any idea if the seats on the 2008 have more upward adjustment than the 2006? When we test drove a 330 last year my petite wife (4'10") couldn't raise the seat high enough to see out the front window : ( I wish the back seat was bigger, None of these back seats are comfortable for extended periods of time - except for the lucky person who sits behind my wife - plenty of legroom. One thing I remember is that rear seat access to the Lexus was challenging. The wheel well makes the door opening tight. Noticed the same thing with their GS also. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Dec 05, 2007 3:34 am) drtravel (Dec 05, 2007 10:44 am) adamr001 (Dec 05, 2007 5:45 am) drtravel (Dec 05, 2007 10:47 am)
#364 of 475 Re: A Few Observations... [adamr001] by drtravel Dec 04, 2007 (9:02 pm)
Replying to: adamr001 (Dec 03, 2007 5:51 pm) I also dislike the fact that I had to disable the laser detector Seems like the most important thing about these electronic driving "helpers" is the ability to turn them off! Believe Lexus gets bashed because you can't always turn these things off. BMW's iDrive makes operating things easy - well maybe not.
#365 of 475 Re: A Few Observations... [drtravel] by kdshapiro Dec 05, 2007 (3:34 am)
Replying to: drtravel (Dec 04, 2007 8:58 pm) Actually don't know about the seats. When I drove the 335 I was able to raise the seats enough to hit my head on the roof, and I'm not tall. I thought the seats were better than in previous models. Replies to this message: drtravel (Dec 05, 2007 10:44 am)
#366 of 475 Re: A Few Observations... [drtravel] by circlew Dec 05, 2007 (3:53 am)
Replying to: drtravel (Dec 04, 2007 8:49 pm) Yes...skip the Nav. Add AWD. Regards, OW Replies to this message: adamr001 (Dec 05, 2007 5:51 am) kdshapiro (Dec 05, 2007 7:14 am) louiswei (Dec 05, 2007 9:13 am) and 2 more... drtravel (Dec 05, 2007 11:07 am) and 10 more...