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#89 of 103 86 Ranger 2.3 - Gas will not keep engine running.
by bozo4ford
Sep 25, 2012 (2:10 am)
86 Ranger 2.3 - Gas will not keep engine running.
Hello fellow ford rangers out there.....
Ok...here we go again. I'm still having issues, but it's intermittent. Last year I got the relays or something wet that prevented the car from starting, then I thought it all dried out, but had to replace a few things.
1986 Ford Ranger / 2.3 EFI / 140 CID OHC /4-Cyl/5 speed
So the last time I was here, I was having doggy issues which I thought were fuel related. I'm still having issues, although it appeared to cleared up a bit.
When I start the engine, it cranks over, I'd give it some gas, it would rev up, then suddenly die, no matter if I pressed down on the gas pedal or not. After two or three times doing this, it would turn over and maintain a steady idle, then off I go.........
The problem now?
Well, late today I tried to get it going, and after about 15 times, I gave up. It would not stay idling, it would crank over then die. I did not want to ruin the starter. It seems the gas pedal is worthless after the engine decides to conk out, and no matter how many times I step on the gas pedal, nothing happens.
It would be so pleasant if I could get close to pinpointing this cause, instead of playing the expensive process of elimination game. I DO realize what a long shot that would be, for someone to just tell me, "Hey, dude, check your ##$
&&, that's definitely your problem!", but life seems never to be easy.
Has been replaced within the last few months:
Fuel filter regulator,
Inline fuel filter,
Cap and rotor,
Lucas fuel injector cleaner,
ECC computer, and Fuel relay switches, (multi-function relay/connector switch)
Idle Air Control Valve - Removed and Cleaned.
Checked all vacuum hoses.
Has not been replaced:
Map Sensor,
EGR Valve and sensor,
Throttle Position Sensor,
EVP sensor,
Spark plugs, (two years ago)
Plug wires, (two years ago)
Ignition control module, (replaced about six years, or more)
So, I can sure use some help from anyone who experienced these symptoms, and what did you do to correct the problem?
With trying to keep the gas going to turn it over, it does not, so to me, it seems to be more of a fuel problem than electrical, but I'm no mechanic. Thank you for any help!
#90 of 103 Re: 86 Ranger 2.3 - Gas will not keep engine running. [bozo4ford]
by reranger
Sep 25, 2012 (5:05 am)
Hello bozo4ford,
One thing you can check is your fuel shutoff switch, usually located at the top of your carpeting on the passenger side floorboard. Check to see if the switch is bad or if you have a melted wire harness leading to the switch. I have had similar issues ( not exact) and i found a melted wire harness at the base of this switch. $75 at a local junkyard and the problem was fixed. Its worth a look, hope this helps.
#91 of 103 Re: 94 Ford Ranger 2.3L, stalls [atomicthunk]
by tfejeran
Sep 28, 2012 (12:55 am)
#92 of 103 1986, 2.3 EFI Ranger Still not runing.....
by bozo4ford
Oct 01, 2012 (2:30 pm)
Thanks!
I did tap and clicked on the Inertia or Rollover swith on the passenger's floor. This could be anything.
Well, after a week of painful neck and shoulder pain, (Doc said it was osteoarthritis, that and sleeping on pillow wrong) I'm finally back on computer. Did not have time to do anything with my truck. I'm still in a little pain, but I'm trying to pinpoint the cause of my truck not running. it cranks, but does not turn over.
Some one told me over the weekend NEVER use fuel injection cleaner in this old 26 year old truck, because he sez, it can muster up all the contaminates and clog places where the fuel could not get to the injectors. it was LUCAS DEEP CLEAN Fuel System cleaner. I added this to a full tank of gas back in February, so this may or may not have anything to do with my problem.
The mechanic told me he found metal shavings in the inline fuel filter, he told me that the pump might be breaking down after 26 years. So I think I'll have him replace the pump. I am not a mechanic, nor do I have any test gauges, etc., so I am at the ''honest'' mechanics mercy.
#93 of 103 1993 Ranger Stalls on hard braking
by oldrangerdude
Nov 04, 2012 (1:58 pm)
My 1993 Ranger (4.0L V6) was stalling when hard breaking (60 Km to 0 Kms) restart no probs. Replaced Throttle Position Sensor and Air Bypass Valve Sensor and cleaned Throttle body with no correction to problem ... today replaced Fuel Filter (cheap comparably to other replaced parts) seems to have corrected problem, will still hesitate but does not stall. Perhaps if same issues try Fuel Filter first.
#94 of 103 94 Ranger Dies Every 10 miles
by kopfhunter
Dec 15, 2012 (7:20 am)
My 94 ranger just went over 200,000. Now, I only drive it about 300 miles a month.
Had a problem a couple of weeks ago where it sputtered wouldn't accelerate or die. Mechanic replaced Ignition Module.
Ran great for about 7 miles and then it died, while I was driving.
Now, driving down the road at any speed the truck will just die out but it does not have any problem of starting up and driving on.
It happens every 5 to 20 miles, as I've tracked it for about 150 miles and it's happened 10 times.
Mechanic is at a loss. he did switch out the Ignition Module to make sure that wasn't the problem.
He's suggesting the most reasonable problem is probably the Crank Sensor. The issue is that it's not easy to get to. So having already spent $400, I'm looking at at least another $400 to try something that might or might not be the problem.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
#95 of 103 Re: Random stalling 2003 ranger [bolivar]
by kopfhunter
Dec 15, 2012 (7:37 am)
I know this is three years old but I'm having the EXACT problem, which is unique to ALL the other problems posted here.
"driving down the road at any speed the truck will just die out. restart with no problem and then continue for another 5 to 20 miles before it happens again"
I'm curious from rick2343 if the Crank Sensor fixed his problem.
Also curious what CAD NORTHSTAR is as that's what insanetang suggested.
#96 of 103 Re: 94 Ranger Dies Every 10 miles [kopfhunter]
by atomicthunk
Dec 16, 2012 (1:58 am)
I know this might sound strange, but my son's 94' had the same problem. We were getting a bunch of codes, most having to do with the EGR system, but once those were cleared, it was still having the same kind of problems you were having. We changed all the normal things, wires, fuel pump, fuel filter ,plugs but nothing seem to improve it. We found that it was the ignition module, but after installing a new one, it would die sort of like the problem you are having. After many hours( days ) of trial and error, I found that for some reason the ignition module did not like being mounted and bolted down in it's original position. It has to be grounded to work, so I just attached a ground wire using a nut and bolt in one of the mounting holes in the module and used cable ties to sort to position the module up and out of the way. For some reason this worked. The trucks been running great the last 6 months. The only thing I can figure is that one of the two cable assy. going to the ignition module has either a short or and open that is corrected by having the cables in a different position. Hope this info helps, cause I went through hell chasing this problem and nothing seemed to make sense. I'm pretty sure if you have a problem with the crank sensor that it would not start at all. Good Luck
#97 of 103 Re: 94 Ranger Dies Every 10 miles [atomicthunk]
by bozo4ford
Dec 16, 2012 (10:19 am)
Well, let me tell you about my 1986 Ranger. I had similar problems, but I ended up cleaning the AIC, replacing in-line fuel Filter, fuel pressure regulator, new Fuel and computer relays, and a new TFI Control module. Plugs and wires, cap, and rotor, etc. Another problem was my Ignition Starter switch broke inside the steering column and that made a lot of difference to me...anyway.
I was the original owner of this truck...until someone clipped from my drivers side rear, threw into a Pit maneuver, and a 180 spin, just 'totaled' my truck about two weeks ago. I almost replaced my Pass side interior kick wall computer, but thankfully, did not before this happened, and saved 100.00. It was not the problem anyway.
Now for a 86' ranger, the wreck yard offered me $350.00, and Loss of vehicle close to $2400.00, so for a 26 year old 'wrecked" truck, I should count my blessings! Now the task of trying to find a replacement truck, and hopefully, not inheriting other people problems. Good luck to you. I know it seems daunting having to play the process of elimination game, but sadly, that's what you might have to do. reading codes helps the process.
#98 of 103 Re: 2.3L gas Ranger, maybe timing,maybe fuel filter..? [bozo4ford]
by blackwiddow05
Mar 17, 2013 (12:42 am)
Your over thinking this, do u have a vacuum gauge? Hook it up to egr and watch it, if you don't press the diagram in/up with your finger and see if it dies. Iac is a good guess but don't buy a new one just take yours off and clean it with carb cleaner. Does your truck have the egr that tuns through the throttle body....I would use carb cleaner and a toothbrush and clean the body plate. Last when it it dying spay some carb cleaner in a vacuum port at intake and other end blocked off and see if that helps, then u know its an air fuel problem. Also obd1 codes will disappear but if your quick u can catch them. Then write them down and disconnect batt for ten min to clear and see if they come back. Hope this helped