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that mentions the VCM in the 2008 Accord EX V-6 sedan states that the VCM is totally unnoticeable to the driver except for the indicator light. Must be at least 10 reviews saying the same thing. One reviewer called the VCM's operation "seamless." This is the first time I have heard anything to the contrary. On the other hand, there seems to be a consensus of unhappiness with the performance of the 5 speed automatic transmission. |
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Although the reviewers often say the VCM's operation is seamless, I have seen a number of posts over the last month which have mentioned feeling the system operate. None have said it is overly-objectionable . . . just that they feel it. I think this is consistent with golfrski's post. With regard to the 5 speed auto tranny, I do not believe there is a "consensus of unhappiness" with its performance. It gets glowing reviews from the pros and gets a glowing review from me  . I was dead-set against an automatic when I purchased my 4cyl EX-L. But, after several long test drives and the unavailablity of a manual, I bought the auto. I have not regretted my decision! The automatic is still no manual in terms of control, but I think it does a wonderful job for an automatic. Its upshifts are smooth and, most importantly, predictable and its downshifts are right on the mark. The system is smooth (and I hear even more smooth when mated to the V6) and never searches for gears. If there is one thing I would go to bat for on the new Accord, its the automatic transmission. I think it does a superior job of reading my right foot!!
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Replying to: golfrski (Nov 01, 2007 6:42 pm) Since you claimed this is your sixth Accord, I'm also curious why you said "grade logic" was new.
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M Karesh, lead car reviewer, "Epinions", after driving two 2008 Accord EX vehicles: the 190 hp 4 and the 268 hp V-6: "The engines deserve better partners. When hooked up to either one, the still-five-speed automatics didn't behave well. They occasionally held a gear too long or refused to downshift or bumped when going from gear to gear." There are other reviews where unhappiness with the 5 speed automatic is expressed: Motor Trend in comparing the Camry SE to the Accord EX-V6 found that "Toyota's 6 speed automatic outclasses the Accord's 5-speed." Cars.com wrote that "upshifts can be a little jerky at times." US News and World Report: "Automotive writers are mostly dismayed with the Accord's 5-speed automatic transmission." Nevertheless, I plan on driving a 2008 EX V-6 sedan. Like I said, this vehicle is on my shopping list. I am more concerned about feeling the VCM than anything about the transmission. I hope other owners of the V-6 sedan come forward and can enlighten us on their VCM experiences.
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 02, 2007 3:16 pm) The Accord did, however, win that comparison. And while they did say they liked the Camry's 6 speed transmission better, would they have liked it so much if it started the flare-up issue, that has probably been at least part of why CR doesn't give the Camry V6 "reliable" status. Maybe Honda wants to make sure a 6 speed auto trans will be reliable, before putting it in the Accord. The 5 speed automatic in my 03 EX V6 has been flawless in it's operation. More speeds means more complexity, and more needless shifting, for the sake of acceleration and fuel mileage. Just my thoughts on the subject.
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Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 02, 2007 3:43 pm) I do believe what dissatisfies many reviewers, most drivers probably don't even notice or care. I really want to like this car. I am coming off lease in July and I have high hopes for the EX V6. (I should be able to swing sub-invoice by then!)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 02, 2007 3:48 pm)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 02, 2007 2:10 pm) First off like I said in my 1st post on this issue, city driving you will hardly feel much of anything. This is due to lower speeds, less constant cruising speeds and the basic "stopping and starting" or braking and accelerating that we all find consistent with non-highway driving. In lower speeds its a bit less distinguishable due to simply put, more shifting. On highway driving is where I found the VCM to be most noticiable. flat open road minimal road wear conditions(i.e check holes, asphalt repairs etc) In fact interstate 71 in Ohio. Between 65 and 70 mph and off Cruise Control. That is the funny thing,I dont notice the changes as much in the computer aided CC. Now, I know what you are going to say, perhaps I have a lead foot, cant tell that I am adding pressure to the gas pedal or pulling off. I too, felt that was a possibility so i tested this thing for a total of 4 hours. 2 hours up to my location and 2 hours back, locking my foot in place at times. I see no reduction in speed on the speedometer OR any real noticable, instrumental change in the RPM. Hope that helps. |
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 02, 2007 3:48 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Nov 02, 2007 6:45 am) So, just be cautious, dont listen to the sales-guy... listen to your self when you test drive it, feel it and consider the purchase,, thats my story and I am sticking to it  GolfrSki
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