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Honda Accord, Transmission, Sedan
#615 of 2717 Re: NO issues with VCM [yrmac]
Feb 14, 2008 (6:55 am)
Replying to: phantomv (Feb 13, 2008 7:36 pm)
Telling me that I had just plain luck for not having any issues with the VCM and changing the title of my message was just asking for a retort. If you believe that it's luck then yes, luck it is, bad or good.
First, I did no such thing as change the title of your message.
Second, I never said "Told you" you were lucky to not have an issue with VCM - golfrski posted that.
I suggest that you be more careful to whom you attribute what. Your inaccuracy casts aspersions on the truth of your other assertions.
Let's get back to topic and not be taking people to task for things they did not write.
As far as VCM is concerned I am convinced now, given the people here who are experiencing VCM "problems" and those who are not, the posts of various reviewers finding the behavior "noticeable" or "maddening", and the accuracy of automated vehicle production today, especially among the Japanese manufacturers whose production tolerances are minute, that all of us are experiencing normal VCM operation. To some of us it is noticeable and intolerable - to others it is merely a matter of seeing the ECO light go on and off when the car shifts into and out of 6-4-3 mode.
Thus my contention - if anyone is contemplating purchase of an Accord with VCM, regardless of how many other Hondas you have ever owned and driven, drive the car you will actually buy extensively, trying it on the highway with cruise control on for a few miles. Really put i through its paces - you too may find that you are very aware of the shifintg of engine modes and find it unacceptable, as many of us here have. I had 3 previous Accord V6's and 4 Acura Legend V6s - NONE of those experiences prepared me for the VCM V6 of the '08 Accord. This is a VERY different car, and a technology that I, personally, find very unsatisfactory, annoying, maddening, frustrating, bothersome, certainly not up to what I thought were Honda engineering standards, and takes away from the enjoyment of the many other nice features of the car.
See, that is just it - it is a CAR - which means, to me, satisfaction with the engine and drivetrain operation is paramount to anything else - I don't care how great the stereo is, the heat/ac, the seat warmers, the power locks operating automatically, etc. if the engine/drivetrain performs unacceptably. My 1994 Legend Type II 6 speed was a fantastic car - what performance. My S2000? Unbelievable performance from a 2.2 liter 4 cylinder. Our old 1990 Legend V6 - superb highway performance belying its mere 161 HP - even at 180,000 miles would cruise all day at 80 effortlessly without any surging or shifting, and accelerate to 100 with ease and alacrity. Sadly this '08 V6 engine/grade logic transmission combination does not deliver, for me anyway, the satisfaction I would have thought it would - the detraction being all the goings on with it over which I have no control - surging, shifting, downshifting of the transmission when I don't want or need it to.
My point again? CAVEAT EMPTOR - DO NOT BUY THIS CAR WITHOUT EXTENSIVE ROAD TESTING. IT DOES NOT BEHAVE, I SUSPECT, LIKE ANY OTHER CAR YOU HAVE EVER DRIVEN UNLESS YOU OWNED A CADILLAC V-8-6-4. NOT EVEN THE ODYSSEY VCM - IT WAS AND REMAINS A MORE SIMPLE 6-3 OPERATION.
#616 of 2717 Re: issues with VCM [phantomv]
Feb 14, 2008 (7:02 am)
just bought 6 accords prior... that should have helped me in the karma dept I would think....
#617 of 2717 Re: issues with VCM [golfrski]
Feb 14, 2008 (7:08 am)
You would have thought wouldn't you? Lot of good it did us!
#618 of 2717 Re: For Curiosity [hondamatic1]
Feb 14, 2008 (8:20 am)
I haven't heard a word of this either. I went out to the shop and asked our Service Manager about this and I got a blank stare in response.
You have to remember, these forums attract people with problems like a magnet.
I honestly think there may be some isolated problems and I also believe some people may be a bit over sensitive?
I don't know. Someone directed me to this forum otherwise I would know nothing about this. I do know that Honda is usually quick to react to problems.
#621 of 2717 Re: For Curiosity [phantomv]
Feb 14, 2008 (8:31 am)
Yes, I have now. I was directed here by a customer. I have driven quite a few V-6 2008 Accords and I have not felt this nor had I heard of this happening.
I'm not saying it doesn't exist. Every reviewer is entitled to his or her opinion. I'm as curious as anyone else is and I'm sure the people at Honda read these forums too!
That same reviewer talked about how Honda had dropped some "ill conceived" models such as Hybrid Accord Coupes.
Honda never built a Hybrid Accord Coupe.
I'll stay tuned, I'm curious about this too.
#622 of 2717 Re: For Curiosity [isellhondas]
Feb 14, 2008 (8:33 am)
so far the only people I see having the problems are from Canada. So again im wondering if it may be a certain manufacturer. I agree though may be isolated. I have not seen that issue even be talked about here at my dealership. Im very sure that if something is going on Honda will adress it. That i know for sure. So please give it some time for all the folks who are writting Honda off.
#623 of 2717 Re: For Curiosity [hondamatic1]
Feb 14, 2008 (8:37 am)
Oh, I had missed the Canadian part. I know there are some differences between Canadian and U.S. cars. Interesting.
#624 of 2717 Re: For Curiosity [hondamatic1]
Feb 14, 2008 (8:44 am)
I am from NY - Manhattan. My car was manufactured in 11/07 in Marysville, OH.
Gorgeous car - Polished Metal/Black interior. Gets all kinds of looks and boy do I now get treated differently at the garage here in Manhattan versus the old Acura, and at the car wash too! But in this case the beauty is only skin deep.