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2008 Honda Accord VCM

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Re: VCM - Honda's New Coke? [blufz1] by phantomv
Jan 20, 2008 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Jan 20, 2008 2:44 pm)

Uh ... did you read? Owned Hondas since 1981 - one typo - not 16, but 14
1981 Accord 5 speed 35,000 miles
1983 Accord auto 34,000
1988 Acura Legend auto 78,000
1994 Acura Legend Coupe 6 speed 30,000
1988 Acura Legend LS for son 72,000 (total 170,000)
1997 Honda Accord V-6 auto 17,000
1990 Acura Legend L for other son 58,000 (total 180,000)
2000 Accord V-6 auto 62,000
2004 Accord V-6 Coupe Auto for wife 3,000 (moved to Manhattan and sold)
2004 S 2000 - toy for me 8,000 (moved to Manhattan and sold)
2008 Accord V-6 EXL Sedan
2007 SE V-6 - bought by son
2007 Pilot
2006 Ridgeline
 
I dare say I am a proven Honda lover and so are other members of my family. I have every right and justification to express my displeasure with the VCM. The 1990 Legend was still more fun and less annoying to drive.
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Re: VCM - Honda's New Coke? [phantomv] by golfrski
Jan 20, 2008 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: phantomv (Jan 20, 2008 7:21 pm)

Doesnt really matter what some of the posters say Phantom... you are right about your situation. This forum is about VCM experiences on the new Honda Accord V6. If your's is poor (as is mine and others) you/we have every right to talk to it and share the experience. I too am a Honda loyalist and hence my level of dissapointment in this new engine/transmission. Its simply not right, nor consistent with the Honda i have grown to know and love. They need to make it right in the end.
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Re: VCM - Honda's New Coke? [phantomv] by elroy5
Jan 20, 2008 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: phantomv (Jan 20, 2008 7:21 pm)

Although your Honda ownership experiences and loyalty are impressive, and your dissatisfaction is certainly warranted, that doesn't mean every VCM equipped car has these problems. And not one of the 40 owners who wrote a review (that I read) think VCM was the "mistake" you claim it is. One bad apple don't spoil the hole bunch, so to speak.
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Re: VCM - Honda's New Coke? [elroy5] by golfrski
Jan 20, 2008 (8:32 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 20, 2008 7:54 pm)

many more apples out there Elroy5.......
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Re: VCM - Honda's New Coke? [phantomv] by blufz1
Jan 20, 2008 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: phantomv (Jan 20, 2008 7:21 pm)

I was just trying to brighten your mood. I don't think you can do better than Honda if you do have a problem. They seem to stand behind their products and I hope they take care of you guys.
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Re: VCM - Honda's New Coke? [hpowders] by binmath88
Jan 21, 2008 (12:37 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 20, 2008 4:55 pm)

I'm terribly sorry to disappoint you, but the earlier V6 Accord had, was a 3.0L engine, but the new VCM V6 is 3.5L hence you have been proving a point:
If they achieved 23mpg for 3.0L engine, for 3.5L engine (without VCM) they should have achieved only 19.7mpg (calculations below), but they've acheived 21mpg, which is improving their own efficiency by 7%. So now you have even more power with greater efficiency. Thank GOD for Honda!
 
(23x3) / 3.5 = 19.7
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Folks? by pat HOST
Jan 21, 2008 (4:34 am)
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It really isn't necessary for those who do not own this particular vehicle to continue to insist that what some owners are experiencing is no big deal. We have a few, some, several, a lot (who knows how many are lurking; it's a whole lot more than those posting) of members who have issues with this technology. Let's let them discuss it without repeatedly telling them their experiences are nothing to be concerned about.
 
Thanks.
 
#315 of 1882
Re: VCM - Honda's New Coke? [binmath88] by phantomv
Jan 21, 2008 (4:35 am)
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Replying to: binmath88 (Jan 21, 2008 12:37 am)

Appreciate your math efforts but there is much more to MPG than your simple calculation - transmission and final drive gearing, lbs./hp, coefficient of drag at highway speeds, being among them.
 
One of big "problem" with the new Accord V-6 when it comes to fuel economy? Needs to on a major diet - 3600 pound Honda? Our 1990 Legend Sedan was 3100 pounds, the 2007 V-6 Sedan 3344 pounds. Odd thing? Honda used to actually get MORE mpg than EPA advertised - example? The Legend? EPA rated 19/22 for the auto. We regularly got 20+ all around and 26 on the highway. Why did it get less MPG than today's cars? Well, only had 161 HP V-6 so lbs/ hp were high, and final gearing was higher so engine revved higher at highway speeds, so engine worked harder. I got 28 MPG with a Pontiac Trans Am on the highway - 2000 RPM at 80!!!!!!!!! Talk about overdrive! And Corvettes get in the high 20's also for the same reason.
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Re: Folks? [pat] by golfrski
Jan 21, 2008 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: pat (Jan 21, 2008 4:34 am)

Once again, thats for keeping the train on the tracks Pat
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Re: VCM - Honda's New Coke? [golfrski] by sunnfun
Jan 21, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: golfrski (Jan 20, 2008 7:28 pm)

I have 70 miles on my car (all highway) and was "suprised" by the annoinance of the VCM "feature". This is my 4th accord and the VCM on the new one is very noticable. I still have my 2001 EXL V6 and there is no comparison in terms of engine feel. The only way I can describe it and compare it to the older models is that it feels like the transmission goes in and out of overdrive on the highway. It seems like the engine and transmission are constantly shifting and moving, rather than getting in overdrive and staying there.(I hope there are no more trans recalls!) This concerns me from the standpoint that there seems to be alot of things moving, which in my mind means more parts that can break. I also agree that the seats are very stiff compared to the older models. Hopefully after the "break-in" period they will soften up a bit. That said, I love everything else about the car. I just hope there is no major issue down the road with the VCM/tranny.

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