Last post on Dec 07, 2013 at 2:43 PM
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Honda Accord, Transmission, Sedan
#2712 of 2720 Re: recurring fouled spark plug with vcm [indydriver]
Oct 13, 2012 (3:12 pm)
CAFE was the motivation for VCM, but ...they needed the 6 or 7 speed auto first and I believe they would get the same results without VCM's..unneeded complexity. Understand my context with the 4 door sedans as the bench mark. Toyota did just that and have an engine that runs smoothly at all speeds. That minivan "advantage" shows on paper but I'll bet the real world mileage is closer on both and you won't be sucking oil 80,000 miles like many of the Honda's seem to be.
#2713 of 2720 Re: recurring fouled spark plug with vcm [robtroxel]
Oct 23, 2012 (5:25 pm)
True. It's better to let all the cylinders work, on a higher gear. Low noise, low wear, no vibrations.
#2716 of 2720 2013 crosstour - entire car shaking at 22 - 28mph
Oct 21, 2013 (6:19 pm)
Guess what - Our 2013 EX-L V6 AWD now has the same problem - if not worse than our 2010 Honda Crosstour. Severe floorboard shake at 22mph - 28 - then again in the 40mph range then again around 72-78mph. It's not as bad in S mode - using the paddle shifters.
Honda - Please get a clue - I'm also seeing people complaining with the Acura RDX - which just received the new VCM.
Nov 05, 2013 (9:29 am)
Having owned Honda Accords since 1981, and most receently a 1997 Accord V6, a 2000 Accord V6, and a 2004 V6 Coupe, we bought a 2008 V6 with VCM with great confidence in December 2007. In early 2011, with only 28,000 miles on it, all hell broke loose on a trip from NYC to our son's house in NJ. first the check engine light came on - I stopped and checked to see that the gas cap was on correctly as we had gotten gas. Followed manual and restarted the car - everything seemed fine, then all of a sudden the check engine light came on , the VSA lights, and the transmission downshifted two gears by itself. I tried restarting the car again, but each time, after about 30 seconds of operation, the same thing happened. We limped back into NYC - took the car to Paragon Honda in Queens - the result after several days of examination with the Regional Manager involved - something about transmission input and output modules replaced and the car pronounced "fine". Yeah, drove it home and it was not downshifting slowing down going into corners - came out of a slow turn in 5th , the transmission/engine lugging. I wasted no time - sold it immediately to a dealer in Texas on ebay and bought a used 2008 Acura RL with 18K on it for LESS than the Accord cost new. My highway mileage IMPROVED on the same trips from about 27 to 29-30 with the RL, and NO MORE VCM!!! That thing drove me nuts - seamless changing from 6-4-3 and back??? No way - I felt every change of cylinder management. Now I see that the Accord V6 has lost its recommended status as a used car by Consumer Reports. It is no wonder. Honda has lost me as a customer since 1981 since the new RL has VCM also. I will not own a Honda product with VCM. IF I need another car - my RL has 34,000 miles on it now - I am looking very seriously at the 2015 Hyundai Genesis with 8 speed transmission.
#2718 of 2720 Class Action Settlement!!,
Dec 07, 2013 (2:17 pm)
See thread "class action" or go to enginemisfiresettlement.com.
Bottom line, you can submit related out of pocket expenses for reimbursement and everyone gets an 8 year warranty against this problem.
#2719 of 2720 Re: Class Action Settlement!!, [indydriver]
Dec 07, 2013 (2:29 pm)
I received the class action letter as well. I would love to shove it in the face of all the Honda reps that basically ignored all my claims of problems and kept giving me the run around with the high speed forced wheel balancing line of crap! I traded it in 2011 for a VW CC and the VW is such a superior car and drives like a dream in comparison. Never again a VCM engine for me. Also hate the BMW engine off when stopped. That's another pile of crap!!
#2720 of 2720 Re: Class Action Settlement!!, [dinofl]
Dec 07, 2013 (2:43 pm)
Glad you're happy with your Vdub. You should write a letter to the court. I am sure there are many owners who traded their VCM in exasperation and lost money on the trade value. This type of financial loss is not addressed by the settlement. Obviously, if you had actual out of pocket expenses, you should submit them.
Of course, Honda is hoping very few people bother so that their expense and damage to their reputation is minimized.