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Nov 07, 2011 (7:00 pm)
Our 2011 Accord EX-L V6 VCM that we bought in March now has 5500 miles on it and runs beautifully. It has burned about 1/4 of a quart. We have left the factory fill in as directed by our dealer figuring their insistence on this matter was part of the factory's response to the issue. The MM still shows 30%. I plan to do the oil changes myself with the first one at 6,000 miles. I will be using Honda Genuine Full Synthetic 0W-20 and OE filters. I'm thinking about doing an oil analysis just to see what's in this magical elixer from the factory. FWIW, this car is driven nearly 100% in the city with many short trips of ten miles and less. This MO is supposedly hard on the oil. Could excessive consumption be related to long stretches of highway miles and three cyl operation?
#2652 of 2720 Re: So far, so good [indydriver]
Nov 08, 2011 (9:21 am)
This is not excessive usage, by any means. If you were using a quart in 2,000 miles, that would be, maybe, excessive for a Honda. If my 4 cylinder used that much, I would not think anything of it. Mine does not use any, but that much usage would not bother me at all.
#2653 of 2720 Re: So far, so good [temj12]
Nov 08, 2011 (11:24 am)
Of course it's not, hence the title of my post. The point is, not all VCMs are having problems. At least not yet.
Nov 10, 2011 (6:57 am)
Our 2010 V6 EX-L Sedan has just over 14K miles on it. I recently changed the oil myself after about 6000 miles on the last oil. The oil level was down about 1/2 quart before the change. To me, that's minimal oil consumption! BTW- I'm using Mobil 1 0-20w full synthetic.
I don't see a connection between oil consumption and the "usual" problems people report with VCM. I also agree that lots of V6-VCM owners experience minimal problems. If they are experiencing problems, those people don't post on this forum. I still maintain that since I can feel the transitions periodically, I won't buy another Honda with VCM.
#2655 of 2720 Re: Oil consumption [rcummelin]
Nov 10, 2011 (9:12 am)
Thanks for the update. My 2011 has 5500 miles is still running on the factory fill and has burned about 1/4 of a qt. I will be doing a DIY OC at about 6000 miles with Honda Gen-U-ine Full Synthethic 0W-20 and OE filter.
#2657 of 2720 Re: Oil consumption [indydriver]
Nov 27, 2011 (5:05 am)
My 2008 Accord VCM has been using about a quarter of oil every 2,000 miles. The torque converter went out and was replaced a couple of months ago. The number 1 cylinder began misfiring a couple of weeks ago and the coil needed replaced (40,000 miles). The rear brakes went out at 12,000. In all honesty, I could not recommend the current model of Accords to anyone and would recommend that potential buyers look elsewhere until Honda replaces the VCM and gets serious about returning to the quality cars they used to produce.
Just got rid of the Accord yesterday and will not be getting another Honda until they get their act together. Good luck to those of you who have the current Accord.
#2658 of 2720 Re: Oil consumption [elliott2]
Nov 28, 2011 (3:22 am)
As you may have seen from my posts - our car went completely bonkers - driving along normally at about 50 MPH on highway and all of a sudden the transmission downshifted two gears, the VSA and Check Engine lights came on - bought new and with only 28K. Stopped and read manual and thought maybe the gas station attendant in NJ had not replaced the gas cap correctly. Turned car off - removec and replaced cap - restarted - nothing. OK - resumed trip - about a mile later? Same thing all over again except this time the D light on the transmission started flashing and the speedometer stopped working. The dealer replaced transmission input and output modules ( whatever they are) and proclaimed it fixed. Drive the car - when slowing for a turn and then accelerating through it the transmission would not downshift and came out of a 20 MPH corner in overdrive lugging the car at less than 1000 RPM - had to step on the gas to get it to downshift. Took it back - they insisted it was fine. I told them I had driven it 28K since new and this was NOT fine or how it had driven before. SOLD it immediately - my experience with new cars is that they give you trouble early - they are always trouble. Bought used 2008 Acura RL with 18K for $25K from AZ - with Tech pkg. LOVE IT - have had it 9 months and it is a dream. I used to dismiss it as an overpriced Honda - but made in Japan and with MANY more features - and for $25k?? Less than a new Honda! Strongly advise anyone looking at Honda with VCM to stay away. THis was our 15th Honda/Acura since 1981 - and the last Honda. Never again VCM.
#2659 of 2720 Re: Oil consumption [michael0137]
Dec 03, 2011 (4:41 pm)
I'm climbing into your boat--sorta. Today we bought a lightly used 2008 Lexus ES250 with most of the factory bells & whistles. Gas mileage ought to be about the same as the Accord.
Although we haven't experienced some of the disasters some VCM-equipped Accord owners have suffered through, we are tired of all the road noise, the overly harsh ride and the clunky poor-shifting transmission. Unless Honda makes some major improvements in their vehicles, we are likely finished with Honda. Too bad, as they once made competitive vehicles--I could go on-and-on, but why bother.
#2660 of 2720 Re: Oil consumption [rcummelin]
Dec 03, 2011 (6:50 pm)
Wish you luck with the Lexus. I agree about Honda - the Accord and Civic have been flops and their sales are way off - not just because of Thailand and the Tsunami. Honda quality in engineering and attention to aesthetics and ergonomics have been matched by their competitors and in other respects exceeded - and at better prices. The Acura RL has also been extensively faulted for not having a V-8 and a 6 speed transmission - though driving it I find it lacks neither - everything I demand of it as a driver it delivers - along with 29-30 MPG at 75-80 MPH. Used to be you needed more gears to make up for lack of torque - thus 6 speed manuals - that lack a torque converter - though big block Corvettes hardly need a 6 speed - 4 would do fine - Ferraris?? No torque - small V-.8 - need the gears. I know - I drove a "65 396 - 425 HP - you could start up in 3rd without problem - massive torque. The Acura might be considered bland by some but drive it HARD and its sporting character comes out - and the AWD is phenomenal. What started out as a luxurious Honda in 1987 has become MUCH more than that. With EPA mileage requirements going up the future for gas powered cars that provide this kind of performance looks bleak. Like what you have - you may be keeping it a LONG time! Good luck.