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Honda Accord, Transmission, Sedan
#2537 of 2720 Re: VCM Problems [robtroxel]
Dec 18, 2010 (7:12 am)
Ok, I have to ask...Why would a six speed transmission be important when the current five spped seems so well matched to the engine?
I mean, I suppose Honda could make a ten speed transmission if the wanted to but I don't think it would make it any "better".
I'm just curious, that's all. Heck, my old Chevy Impala had a TWO speed Powerglide and it worked just fine!
The rear seats still fold down on the new Accords.
I'm not sure why they elminated the LED tailights but never once, did I have even one customer seem to care whether they had them or not.
I guess all of this go's to show that what is important to one person is unimportant to another and what one person can feel, another can't.
Case in point...A family member is passing on to her son, the 2003 CRV that I sold her. It's been near flawless and it now has 190,000 miles.
She will be buying another CRV, a 2011. In our discussions, she let me know that she never used her current sunroof so I suggested an SE which is basically an LX with the EX wheels, CD changer etc.
Now the SE's have a fixed varible wiper system which causes the wipers to take a swipe every five seconds but on the EX, it's user variable.
Something I could care less about BUT, she's going to spend the extra money for this ONE feature she feels she can't live without!
#2538 of 2720 6 Speed transmission
Dec 18, 2010 (7:33 am)
Ok, I have to ask...Why would a six speed transmission be important when the current five spped seems so well matched to the engine? "
The small percentage increase in gas mileage achieved via the complex VCM system could have been achieved by simply upgrading the 5 speed to a new 6 speed transmission.
Hope that answers your question.
#2539 of 2720 Re: 6 Speed transmission 
Dec 18, 2010 (3:19 pm)
FWIW, I totally agree, and also wish we had six-speed transmissions in our Accords. Yes, the 5-speeds work, but for some people, VCM obviously does not.
BTW- I have seen it written, both here on Edmunds and on other Honda/Accord forums that the general opinion is that the 2007 Accord was the pinnacle year for the Accord. The 8th generation (2008-2011+) has definitiely proven to be a step down--maybe more than one step down. This is something else I agree with, and as Honda keeps de-contenting the Accord, the steps downward continue. Really a shame, IMHO.
#2540 of 2720 Re: 6 Speed transmission 
Dec 18, 2010 (3:54 pm)
You are assuming that. By that assumption, again, why not just have a eight or a ten speed transmission? Lugging an engine in too high of a gear isn't good either!
I can't ever remember a time EVER, when the fact the V-6 had VCM pushed a customer over the edge to buy a car so yeah, why bother.
Same thing with the LED tailights.
#2541 of 2720 Re: 6 Speed transmission [rcummelin]
Dec 18, 2010 (3:58 pm)
Oh, there are lots of opinions over which series of Accords or any other model for that matter were the "best".
As far as decontenting, yeah, that's a tough call as buyers want all of the extras but " don't raise the price".
So they leave things out. Things that 90% of the people don't care about or in the case of LED tailights, probably 99%.
All car manufactures do this as they juggle to keep their customers happy and their cars affordable.
#2544 of 2720 Re: 6 Speed transmission [isellhondas]
Dec 22, 2010 (6:19 am)
So we wind up with VCM instead of a six-speed transmission. Sad, IMHO.
Decontenting? Yeah, remove the "extras" and STILL raise the price. That works much better for Honda than it does for their customers.
#2545 of 2720 VCM, Brakes, and now Transmission Problems
Dec 22, 2010 (11:18 am)
After dealing with problems with VCM and having the rear brakes wear out prematurely, the torque converter is being replaced on our 2008 Accord EX-L-NAV (28,000 miles). Didn't realize that Honda has had so many transmission problems for the last 10 years until looking at their statistics on problems/repairs.
Also noticed that a study was just released that shows that Ford and Honda customers are the most loyal. The surprising aspect was that Ford customers are loyal because the Ford vehicles are fun to drive whereas Honda's customers were most loyal because the car held its resale value. If Honda doesn't address its quality issues, the later may not continue to be the case.