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#2525 of 2713 Re: VCM related???? [wayne21] by barr1814

Dec 15, 2010 (12:57 pm)

Replying to: wayne21 (Dec 15, 2010 12:18 pm)
I've owned a 2009 Accord EX-L V6 since Nov. 2009. The things I've noticed are:
1. VCM activation/deactivation (most noticeable for me during low speeds and stop-and-go expressway traffic; least noticeable for me while cruising on road trips.)
2. Premature rear brake pad wear; problem fixed with replacement part and $150 reimbursement. See http://www.girardgibbs.com/hondabrakes.asp
3. Wind noise;
4. The A/C kicking-on-and-off sensation even when the AC is off and the heater is on;
5. Rear interior panel deck rattles during loud music or very bumpy roadway, depending on the temperature of the day. (hope to correct that soon)
 
I've basically deduced that the VCM sensation I'm feeling is pretty much the "normal" operations of the system that I can live with until I trade-in the car. Not sure what this "surging" issue that people are talking about. As far as I'm aware, my car does not surge. Would I purchase another Honda with VCM in it? I doubt it. I still like my car, so it's a keeper for me. I probably won't keep it as long as my previous 98 Honda Accord V6, which I kept for 11 years (and 199,000 miles) before getting this current one. Will I get another Honda Accord? Maybe, if they "perfectify" (is that a word?) the VCM or get rid of it altogether.

#2527 of 2713 Re: VCM related???? [barr1814] by 3800

Dec 16, 2010 (9:01 am)

Replying to: barr1814 (Dec 15, 2010 12:57 pm)
4. The A/C kicking-on-and-off sensation even when the AC is off and the heater is on;
5. Rear interior panel deck rattles during loud music or very bumpy roadway, depending on the temperature of the day. (hope to correct that soon)
  
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#4: The AC sensation is most likely due to the AC being on. You have to press the AC button and have AC Off light up in the display. If the display says AC on, the AC is on. If the display says nothing then the AC IS ON. There is a glitch in the Auto AC control that allows this to happen. Always push the AC button in these EXL vehicles until the display says AC Off. Otherwise the AC compressor with click on and off.
 
#5 The rear shelf deck creak can be silenced by spraying Dupont Teflon Mult-Use dry wax lubricant on all the welded seams and bolts from inside the trunk. The spray can be found at Lowe's - * Item #: 213197
    * Model #: D00110101
 
http://www.lowes.com/SearchCatalogDisplay?storeId=10151&langId=-1&catalogId=1005- 1&N=0&newSearch=true&Ntt=lubricants
 
If your vehicle has a creaking noise from the console area. That can be silenced by removing the plastic trim around the shift lever and stuffing foam padding in the empty space. You may also want to remove one of the plastic side panels flanking the console and stuff that empty space as well.
 
The creaking glove box can be addressed by loosening the hinge screws, shimming the side with folded paper that is touching to make space. Re-tighten the screws and remove the paper shim.

#2528 of 2713 Re: VCM related???? [3800] by barr1814

Dec 16, 2010 (9:24 am)

Replying to: 3800 (Dec 16, 2010 9:01 am)
Thank You! I've been procrastinating about tackling the reck deck panel rattling issue because it's periodic, not a huge annoyance, so I haven't made the time yet. But, I will try your suggestion.
 
Another thing I noticed was oil usage during the first 3 months after buying the car. Now, after 34,000 miles and 13 months of ownership, the car doesn't burn much oil at all. I'm attributing the initial oil usage to "new-ness."

#2529 of 2713 Re: VCM related???? [barr1814] by 3800

Dec 16, 2010 (11:40 am)

Replying to: barr1814 (Dec 16, 2010 9:24 am)
Honda has released a TSB that pinpoints a plastic clip under the rear deck lid that affects '08-'09 Accords- IIRC. I own a 2010, my Accord already has this clip. However, all 8th Gen Accords are also prone to body flex creaking noise. The noise has been pinpointed to be emanating from the welds/bolts under the rear deck and surrounding rear seat back/quater panel area.
 
Oil consumption was an issue for my vehicle within the first 5,000 miles. After discovering this, a bit of hard acceleration over a few 100 miles "seated" the valves. Hasn't used a drop of oil since.

#2530 of 2713 Re: VCM related???? [3800] by dpsports

Dec 17, 2010 (4:41 am)

Replying to: 3800 (Dec 16, 2010 9:01 am)
Although I appreciate your advice to eliminate some of the many small annoyances some people are having.......please keep in mind in Canada the 08 EX-L V6 w/ Navi version ran $38,000. It was/is currently the most expensive CAR that Honda offers in Canada, it's premier model so to speak and I'd prefer not to have to undo nuts and stuff paper into corners to get it to operate/perform/sound as it should.
 
Last week my dealer replaced the spark plug on number three cylinder for a second time, the coil pack for a third time and in total over the last ten months the vehicle has been to the dealer seven times for the same problem. Now they want me to bring it back in to have plugs checked on one through four, replaced as necessary and computer program update. That's eight visits for the same problem.
 
Like many, one of the reasons I lease and replace every few years is because I don't have either the time of desire to spend working on a car or dropping it off for repair. I'm willing to pay to have a vehicle that is reliable and ALWAYS takes me from point A to B. Clearly my options no longer involve Honda.

#2531 of 2713 Re: VCM related???? [wayne21] by isellhondas

Dec 17, 2010 (3:07 pm)

Replying to: wayne21 (Dec 15, 2010 12:18 pm)
OKAY...Didn't mean to send you "over the edge"
 
And in case you missed it, I retired last May and I have ZERO reason to make anything up not that I ever have in any of these forums.
 
Here is what brought me here...
 
About a year or so ago, I had a customer whose family I had sold several cars to that was interested in a V-6 Accord.
 
Personally, I have never seen the "need" for a V-6 but that is besides the point.
 
My customer called me and said they would probably switch to a 4 cylinder because of the VCM "problems" with the V-6's.
 
I was like..." Huh". My customer said.." It's all over the internet, don't you know?"
 
He then directed me to this forum.
 
After reading everything, I asked my fellow salespeople if they had ever felt this problem or if they had ever heard about it. Blank looks.
 
I then went into our shop and asked the Service Advisors and the Service Manager and a couple of key technicians. More blank looks.
 
So, I took THREE v-6 Accords out on the freeway on my day off and tried hard to replicate this problem...nothing.
 
"Blatantly obvious"? In the months that followed, I rode in and drove, literally dozens of V-6 Accords and felt nothing nor did any of my customers mention anything.
 
So, I don't know...obviously some people are feeling "something"?
 
I suppose what bothers some people is not noticible to others?
 
Believe me or not..I have no dog in the fight. Just my stand on this.

#2534 of 2713 Re: VCM Problems (continued) by elliott2

Dec 18, 2010 (6:13 am)

Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 17, 2010 3:07 pm)

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