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Honda Accord, Transmission, Sedan
#2502 of 2717 Re: 2010 Accord vibration [dinofl]
Nov 01, 2010 (5:15 am)
The desire to sweep defects & problems under the rug is NOT unique to Honda. This behavior is used by most other Asian auto makers and even some US automakers. I can't say how the europeans handle it, as I've never owned a european car.
I had a real bad experience with a new Toyota Tacoma pickup in 1995. After multiple trips to the dealer with NO fixes to multiple problems, Toyota simply gave me a new T100 truck rather than admit the Tacoma was a problem-ridden piece of junk. The T100 was much better.
#2503 of 2717 Re: 2010 Accord vibration [rcummelin]
Nov 01, 2010 (3:03 pm)
I totally agree. I just expected a higher standard from Honda. Honda was always my favorite brand. My 1987 CRX Si was my favorite car ever. I never had a problem with any of my Hondas.
#2505 of 2717 I retired last May...
Nov 07, 2010 (2:38 pm)
So I really don't have any "skin in the game" so you can choose to believe me or not...I really don't care.
Seriously, I NEVER ONCE heard of this from anyone in our store nor had our Service Dept. I drove at least six V -6 Accords and I tried to replicate this situation but I never felt a thing.
I don't doubt that a few people are feeling "something" but I sure don't know what that may be.
It's just too bad that somone may read these comments and cross a great car off of their list and end up buying something inferior.
I always thought the 4 cyl Accords had more than enough power and that's what I bought for my wife.
#2506 of 2717 Re: I retired last May... [isellhondas]
Nov 07, 2010 (3:44 pm)
My personal opinion on these VCM "problems" is that I'm sure some exist, and I have no doubt whatsoever that the folks that have been complaining actually do have a vehicle that does NOT perform/behave as it was designed to. I also firmly believe that these vehicles should either be fixed by Honda, or replaced. After all, we're talking about mass-production machines primarily built/assembled by people on an assembly line, and mistakes CAN be made. It is truly unfortunate that Honda insists that there is no problem. That isn't the way to win the hearts & minds of their customers.
All that being said, there really aren't very many different people actually making these complaints. Yes, I have googled VCM and other derivatives several times and have found some, but really not many complaints CONSIDERING the number of vehicles we are talking about.
Perhaps if you lived at a high(er) altitude as we do, you might have a different opinion about 4 cylinder Accords, or 4 cylinder anything for that matter. Altitude changes everything, and 4 cylinders are dogs at altitude. Not completely terrible mind you, but driving at 8000-10,000 ft on the drive to Denver, 4 cylinders have to stay in the slow lane and get along as best they can, which isn't too good.
#2507 of 2717 Re: I retired last May... [rcummelin]
Nov 08, 2010 (6:43 am)
Living in the Seattle area at near sea level, I hadn't thought about the people in areas such as yours. I've always said that I didn't think anyone actually "needed" a V-6 in an Accord but I can see now that I was wrong.
#2508 of 2717 Re: 2010 Accord vibration [hiblade48]
Dec 01, 2010 (7:45 pm)
Same here. I wished I had seen these postings. If I had, I definitely would've gone with a different car. I bought my accord in July and it took four visits to the dealership before they agreed that, yes, the car does shake. But it took another visit in order to learn that according to a Honda rep., the shaking is normal and there's nothing they can do and that most people don't feel the shake or don't mind the shake and it only affects a few "sensitive" people like me.
I'm done with Honda. And I will never recommend Hondas to anyone ever again.
Not to mention shady car salesmen who talk big but never back up what they say. The dealership where I got my car actually suggested that I upgrade to a V6 to get rid of the vibration. But I see from this forum that the V6 appears to have the same issue.
#2509 of 2717 Re: 2010 Accord vibration [shakyaccord]
Dec 02, 2010 (7:14 am)
The V6 is the ONLY engine in Accords that has VCM and consequently has the majority of the issues that are discussed in this thread. However, if you bought a V6 Accord coupe with the six-speed manual transmission, that V6 doesn't have VCM.
Your car (assuming it is a 4 cylinder) is the first 4 cylinder that I have heard having a vibration problem.
Agree that today's Honda is sure NOT the Honda we have come to love. In fact, the "new" Honda seems to be much more like a typical US "big-3" manufacturer than not. Sad.
#2510 of 2717 Re: 2010 Accord vibration [shakyaccord]
Dec 02, 2010 (10:46 pm)
I have not heard of the four cylinder having a vibration issue. The V-6 has a reputation for this when it is going from six cylinders to four, but the four does not have it.
#2511 of 2717 VCM related????
Dec 03, 2010 (6:02 pm)
Sadly still on this thread as I've been unable to bite the bullet and trade. I've had recent developments and wonder if anyone here is having the same issues and if it's somehow VCM related.
This past Spring (April) car began to 'miss' along with the mandatory warning lights, check engine, VSA etc. Car feels like it wants to stall, very rough operation, increased RPM (roughly 10%) and increased fuel consumption (+30%). The first error codes stored were not helpful in finding the fault but eventually (think it was the third visit) they traced the problem and replaced the coil pack on #3 cylinder. That lasted one week. Coil was gone again and with the help of techline they again replaced the coil pack and also replaced the spark plug - again, only #3 cylinder.
Car operated 'normally' until last week when the same condition came back. Today service identified the problem as .... wait for it ..... coil pack and plug replacement needed on cylinder #3. Wow. Eight months.
Does anyone know if VCM shuts down specific cylinders and in a specific order? For giggles I checked another forum today looking for engine related issues. There are some reports of identical situations and they all identified #3 cylinder.
I'll keep you posted and would appreciate your insight.