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Re: VCM Irritation [stove1] by elroy5
Jun 07, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: stove1 (Jun 07, 2009 7:33 am)

I would inform the salesman of my concerns, and let him know I want to do an EXTENSIVE TEST DRIVE, at various speeds (from 30mph to interstate speeds). Make sure you test drive THE car you plan to purchase, and not assume each car will be the same.
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Re: VCM Irritation [stove1] by dpmeersman
Jun 07, 2009 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: stove1 (Jun 07, 2009 7:33 am)

During any driving situation VCM activity is in direct proportion to input and backing off on the throttle. The sensation felt is sometimes more evident as you slowly depress the throttle causing the 3 or 4 cyl mode of operation to switch to full 6 cyl power, but not if you aggressively engage the throttle. The schizophrenic nature of the design can be felt on a regular basis as the on again off again relationship your foot will have with the throttle during typical city driving. In my particular car it seldom is any more noticeable than a transmission shift. 21 months and almost as many miles of motoring with VCM as my constant companion and it would not deter me from buying an Accord again. Just seems that the rest of the mfg's have achieved the same results in fuel economy by going the traditional route of adding another cog to the tranny.
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Re: VCM Irritation [elliott2] by accordguy0325
Jun 07, 2009 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: elliott2 (May 21, 2009 5:01 pm)

Only problem with the Fusion is its lower resale value - not to mention its questionable long-term reliability. The folks at Ford may know how to beat imports in initial quality ratings, but long term dependability remains to be seen.
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Test Drive by stove1
Jun 08, 2009 (3:56 pm)
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Test drove Accord Ex-L V6 today. The Accord VCM is totally transparent to me. I don't feel it. The engine does what I want it to do. I step on the gas it speeds up, take my foot off it slows down. I can see the ECO light come on and off during all kinds of driving, no surge ,no hesitation associated with 3,4,6 operation. Maybe this 50 year old is just too old dumb and numb to feel it.
 
 The car as a whole package is a different story though. The Accord is terribly noisy ,the tires, wind , engine sound fills the passenger compartment. I can feel more engine vibration through the steering wheel. It reminds me of my 1980's Corolla. Not a top of the line $25000 Accord. Maybe I'm too spoiled by my Toyota 4runner V8, one of the most silky smooth quiet vehicle there is.
 
Disappointed. I went on to drive a Mazda6. Very nice car. Quiet and competent but I dislike the exterior and interior look. Gets only 25 mpg on the highway. Forget that one. On to the Toyota dealer. Asked for a SE V6. What a pleasant surprise. Quiet like my 4runner. Silky smooth powertrain. That blue tint instrement panel is beautiful. I still don't like the Camry's look. I will just have to focus my eyes on the road ahead instead of the car itself.
 
    Golfski and other Accord critic: I hope you succeed getting Honda to drop the VCM. While it doesn't bother me I don't see no reason the engine should run at 2500 rpm instead of 1500 (my 4runner) at freeway speed. Everytime the engine turns, it takes a little life out of it. There's no excuse for this.
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Re: VCM Irritation [accordguy0325] by thegraduate
Jun 08, 2009 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: accordguy0325 (Jun 07, 2009 5:39 pm)

So far, its got the other guys beat based on previous generation models (Comparing my 2006 Accord with a 2006 Fusion, for example).
 
I must say, I'm happy to see at least one of the "home team" guys getting it right.
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Re: Test Drive [stove1] by stove1
Jun 11, 2009 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: stove1 (Jun 08, 2009 3:56 pm)

Test drove another V6 Accord today. Noisy noisy. This time my ear drum felt uncomfortable I don't know its the tire noise or Honda's active noise cancellation at work. I suspect the later.
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Re: Test Drive [stove1] by accordguy0325
Jun 11, 2009 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: stove1 (Jun 11, 2009 9:46 am)

"your eardrum" > ? perhaps the ANC interferes with hearing-aids and thus created the noise you heard (if you wear one that is)
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Re: VCM Irritation [accordguy0325] by elliott2
Jun 17, 2009 (2:44 am)
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Replying to: accordguy0325 (Jun 07, 2009 5:39 pm)

Only problem with your statement is that there isn't any published resale value yet for the Fusion Hybrid as it just came out. If you look at the latest Consumer Reports, the new style Accord has the lowest predicted resale value that Accord has had in the last 10 years.
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15k Mile Update - No issues by csr67
Jun 17, 2009 (1:06 pm)
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Just thought I'd post an update on my 2008 EXL V6. Just had the second oil change done at 15k miles. Car has been totally flawless, no VCM issues at all. I drive this car hard on a daily basis, and the 3.5L v6 is a great engine. If it was not for the green "eco" light coming on, I'd never know the VCM is active. Just an opinion from one satisfied owner. If you're in the market for a v6, go try one out, they don't all have issues.
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Re: VCM Irritation [elliott2] by accordguy0325
Jun 17, 2009 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: elliott2 (Jun 17, 2009 2:44 am)

According to Intellichoice.com- a 2009 Honda Accord LX depreciates $ 8,936 over a 5 year period and is rated excellent for cost of ownership.
 
A comparable 2009 Ford Fusion S depreciates $ 11,067 over the same period and has higher repair/maintenance costs then the Accord, it is also rated below average in ownership costs.
 
2008 figures illustrated a similar story, so I'd venture to guess 2010 model resale and ownership values will again point in favor of the Accord.
 
http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/vehicleReport/vehicle_nmb/24374/section/own- ership/2009/Ford/Fusion
 
http://www.intellichoice.com/reports/vehicleReport/vehicle_nmb/40500/section/own- ership/2009/Honda/Accord

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