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Replying to: dpmeersman (Apr 03, 2009 8:41 am)
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Replying to: yuka (Apr 03, 2009 9:00 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 03, 2009 9:36 am) The VCM engine with the 5 speed automatic transmission is a bad combination. There are many time when driving around town that the car is outright annoying as the transmission shits up too early and the engine has switched to a lower number number of cylinders, causing the sensation that the engine is hesitating and doesn't have enough power. Other times, it feels like the engine is stalling out. The Honda factory rep avoided the topic of the sloshing sound from the gas tank; I've have never had a car that did that after 40 years of driving. Just took the car to one of the major insurance companies safety lab and they found that the baffles in the gas tank appear to have moved from their original fasteners in the tank. The result is that when there is more than 3/4th of a tank of gas, the gas not only sloshes but the weight of the gas moving causes the car to move slightly when you're stopping, almost like another car just slightly bumped you from behind. Counting the days to get rid of this car. It's great looking inside and out; love the handling (with the exception of the engine and the transmission). Until the problems with the VCM can be reduced (there's obviously a quality control issue when a large enough number of drivers are complaining at various websites). One final note: Honda needs to re-focus on quality. If you've looked at the latest rankings of cars, you'll notice that Honda is slipping from its previous rankings (the exception seems to be the Civic, which continues to rated very high). Accord is quickly becoming an "also ran". |
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Replying to: elliott2 (Apr 05, 2009 4:04 am) Elliot, I know you're unhappy with your Accord, but how exactly are the cylinders misfiring? Whether it's running on 6, 4, or 3, they're all firing as Honda intended to. Honda didn't make a mistake, they designed it that way. I love the fact when I'm cruising down the road on 3 cyl's because I'm getting great mpg's. My 08 V6 runs beautifully and now is exceeding my average mpg's over my previous 06 V6. My 08 doesn't run the same as the 06 did, but it wasn't designed or intended to. As for the noise problem you're having, could it possibly be subjective? I can 'hear' and 'feel' it when in 3 cyl mode but it's not annoying - for me it's better than having the louder 4 cyl all the time. I don't hear any sloshing in my gas tank so maybe you have a problem there. Have to ask; sure you don't have anything in the trunk?
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Replying to: jhinsc (Apr 05, 2009 5:29 pm)
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Replying to: elliott2 (Apr 06, 2009 1:20 am) |
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Replying to: elliott2 (Apr 05, 2009 4:04 am) The VCM is too much effort for too little mileage gain in my book, but it is an integral part of the car - only way to get rid of it is to trade it. I now have around 5000 miles on the car and have noticed that at about 2500rpm it has gotten a bit of a 'droning' sound to the engine note in the front of the car. I like the car, but it does feel like Honda is subscribing to the larger and cheaper is better school, unlike my prior Subaru which most people got sticker shock looking at what you got (size and techno toys wise) for the money. We need to add Honda to the list of automakers where we don't by the first years model. The old saying with domestics was that the first year they found and fixed the bugs, so the second year was more reliable, then the third year they would finally add the more powerful engine and features that the car should have had from the beginning. Then they would redesign it and start the process over. So only buy the third year of any generation car. Brake wise, I had a 1990 Dodge Spirit ES V6 with four wheel disc brakes that only got to the mid 20K miles on each set of front brakes.
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Replying to: jmillerjmiller (Apr 06, 2009 7:53 pm) |
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I just got my 2009 EX v6. I like the car alot. I'm getting used to VCM but it isnt that bad for those that are on the fence. When VCM kicks on I can tell barely...but truth be told it isnt much. What I am however trying to figure out is the feeling that after going into VCM, it feels like it makes another transmission shift. I however note that there is NO change in RPM and the car was already in 5th gear at the time. Is this the torque converter? If so what is the purpose? It isnt intrusive or rough, just feels like after i'm crusing around 50mph and VCM kicks it shifts. Only part of this VCM system that could do without is going into VCM when letting off the accelerator. It keeps the car in gear as you slow and just feels like their is strain on the drivetrain as opposed to just going to neutral like all other cars out there. Slowing through 25mph you can feel the torque converter lock up. Again I'm sure this was well designed by HONDA for some reason but if anyone knows better Id love to know. I would sacrafice the extra 1mpg or whatever difference VCM makes if they would just make a mod where I could turn off VCM. When the car is cold in the morning and drive around..the car drives so great! Even with VCM..it drives fine but I just notice very little nitnoid stuff such as posted before. Otherwise I have no shimmy issues and my car is registering great mileage. ~25mpg average. Knowing what I know now..Id still by the V6 as the I4 doesn't have the power or good gas mileage anymore comparatively speaking. The only other car I would consider is the TL but that is much more money wise. I still feel the accord offers the best bang for the buck value and looks great. I'm sure HONDA tested VCM out and that my car will last for many worry free years.
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Replying to: dc10plt (Apr 20, 2009 12:02 pm) Sounds like your experiencing the Grade Logic Control of the 5 spd auto tranny. It does fly in the face of convention that the VCM indicator light stays on as your engine breaking on a downhill incline causing the engine to rev higher then if you were coasting in a higher gear. There are times I feel this feature achieves it's intended goal and times that I wish it would allow for a more efficient coast. It's a smart tranny but nothing can take the place of the human brain and a manual shifter or automated paddle shifter tranny. Like everything else the Accord is built to a price point and remains first and foremost a family sedan, and a fine one at that. |
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