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2179 messages, Last post on Nov 19, 2009 at 8:41 AM
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Replying to: yuka (Apr 01, 2009 8:06 am) The car does have some odd engine notes and vibration from it, as well as the surging/hesitation. Those appear to be the nature of this particular design. I was a little leery buying the car just after seeing all the gee-whiz junk they did, as the earlier Accords (gen 6 and earlier) did not have this stuff. Navi is one thing, but adding active noise cancellation and a dual active chamber engine mount (earlier ones had a single chamber mount), etc. just hide the 3-4-6 schemes issues? This is a live with it for me, the steering wheel shimmy that mine has since day one is the bigger issue. It's been minimized with the third road force balance, but if you know what to look for it is still there in a small way. The paint job on this car has more flaws in it than the the last four vehicles I've owned combined - this is also a live with it. I had to wait for this one to come from Marysville, so I could not reject it for this, unlike if it was one on the lot. Still, I like this cars size, handling, and performance in general. But after loosing the low dash due to the ACS design it feels a lot more like a traditional american car design where the dash is high and you sit down in a tub.
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Replying to: jmillerjmiller (Apr 01, 2009 9:03 pm) I totally agree - this is the most "American" Honda to date, losing the low cowl other had had. I liked the 1st generation Acura Legends - they had every bit as much leg room, etc. but were SOO much lower and the cowl ? Your line of sight was amazing. Some interesting comparisons - 1990 Legend v 2009 Accord V6 Acura Honda Front HR 37 41 Rear HR 37 37 Front LR 43.4 42.5 Rear LR 35 37 Length 191 194 Ht 54.7 58! Wt 3170 3600 Width 69 73 WheelBase 109 110
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Replying to: yuka (Apr 03, 2009 7:13 am)
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Replying to: dpmeersman (Apr 03, 2009 8:41 am)
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Replying to: yuka (Apr 03, 2009 9:00 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 03, 2009 9:36 am) The VCM engine with the 5 speed automatic transmission is a bad combination. There are many time when driving around town that the car is outright annoying as the transmission shits up too early and the engine has switched to a lower number number of cylinders, causing the sensation that the engine is hesitating and doesn't have enough power. Other times, it feels like the engine is stalling out. The Honda factory rep avoided the topic of the sloshing sound from the gas tank; I've have never had a car that did that after 40 years of driving. Just took the car to one of the major insurance companies safety lab and they found that the baffles in the gas tank appear to have moved from their original fasteners in the tank. The result is that when there is more than 3/4th of a tank of gas, the gas not only sloshes but the weight of the gas moving causes the car to move slightly when you're stopping, almost like another car just slightly bumped you from behind. Counting the days to get rid of this car. It's great looking inside and out; love the handling (with the exception of the engine and the transmission). Until the problems with the VCM can be reduced (there's obviously a quality control issue when a large enough number of drivers are complaining at various websites). One final note: Honda needs to re-focus on quality. If you've looked at the latest rankings of cars, you'll notice that Honda is slipping from its previous rankings (the exception seems to be the Civic, which continues to rated very high). Accord is quickly becoming an "also ran". |
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Replying to: elliott2 (Apr 05, 2009 4:04 am) Elliot, I know you're unhappy with your Accord, but how exactly are the cylinders misfiring? Whether it's running on 6, 4, or 3, they're all firing as Honda intended to. Honda didn't make a mistake, they designed it that way. I love the fact when I'm cruising down the road on 3 cyl's because I'm getting great mpg's. My 08 V6 runs beautifully and now is exceeding my average mpg's over my previous 06 V6. My 08 doesn't run the same as the 06 did, but it wasn't designed or intended to. As for the noise problem you're having, could it possibly be subjective? I can 'hear' and 'feel' it when in 3 cyl mode but it's not annoying - for me it's better than having the louder 4 cyl all the time. I don't hear any sloshing in my gas tank so maybe you have a problem there. Have to ask; sure you don't have anything in the trunk?
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Replying to: jhinsc (Apr 05, 2009 5:29 pm)
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Replying to: elliott2 (Apr 06, 2009 1:20 am) |
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Replying to: elliott2 (Apr 05, 2009 4:04 am) The VCM is too much effort for too little mileage gain in my book, but it is an integral part of the car - only way to get rid of it is to trade it. I now have around 5000 miles on the car and have noticed that at about 2500rpm it has gotten a bit of a 'droning' sound to the engine note in the front of the car. I like the car, but it does feel like Honda is subscribing to the larger and cheaper is better school, unlike my prior Subaru which most people got sticker shock looking at what you got (size and techno toys wise) for the money. We need to add Honda to the list of automakers where we don't by the first years model. The old saying with domestics was that the first year they found and fixed the bugs, so the second year was more reliable, then the third year they would finally add the more powerful engine and features that the car should have had from the beginning. Then they would redesign it and start the process over. So only buy the third year of any generation car. Brake wise, I had a 1990 Dodge Spirit ES V6 with four wheel disc brakes that only got to the mid 20K miles on each set of front brakes.
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