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#2050 of 2183 Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [hondalvr1] by robotaz2 Jan 29, 2009 (7:00 pm)
Replying to: hondalvr1 (Jan 09, 2009 6:14 am) Actually, you don't sound like a typical person who might own a coupe because they are a.) sporty versions of the car, and b.) typically have larger, low profile tires with the type of wheels that require some degree of sense to keep from scraping up. That said, my Accord coupe came with three chipped wheels from the factory. Either there are complete idiots mounting the tires or the machinery that is used at the factory is crap. Either way, the wheels being chipped on my brand new car really made me mad. And, my VCM still drives me nuts. But, the worst part about owning this car has been the constantly popping console, trim around the stereo, and the rattling in the headliner. This will be my last Honda for sure. I have been very, very disappointed with this car and it was my first Honda. It makes me mad, but I can afford to laugh at how stupid people who love Honda are and write this car off as a total loss. I will be buying a 2009 F150 to be rid of this Honda very soon.
#2051 of 2183 Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [jbhansen] by elliott2 Jan 31, 2009 (5:05 am)
Replying to: jbhansen (Jan 13, 2009 9:40 am) It's not strange that "you feel with your ears"; it's physics. All sound is caused by vibration.
#2052 of 2183 deny, deny, deny........ by dpsports Feb 03, 2009 (5:23 pm)
I've posted here in the past but tend to get frustrated with the naysayers who believe these (their) products are all perfect. But since I'm about to take a substantial $$$$ hit to unload my 2008 EX-L V6 w/ Navi BEATER, I thought I'd bring some things up one final time.   This is not the only place to find comments/concerns about VCM in th '08 Accord V6. Try starting here http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/reviews/article.aspx?cp-documentid=6119166   To save some the trouble I'll just quote directly from the author below;   On the sedan, you can feel when VCM is activated - the engine relays a slight gravelly tingle through the toeboard. Even when all six cylinders are at work, the larger engine is not as turbine-smooth as its predecessor. The underhood sound track is a little gruffer, more aggressive. But it's certainly not unpleasant. Arguably, it's a good fit with the new Accord's sportier persona.   I have struggled with this issue from the beginning. To answer some earlier questions, I am late 30's and live in Southern Ontario. Very cold winters, very hot summers. Same issues years round. Vehicle is now 16 months old and has 45,000 klm. It stutters constantly when attempting to drive at a consistent speed over 70 klm/hour. Go ahead, pick one - 80, 110 - don't care. Cruise actually makes it better which has caused me to discuss throttle issues with dealership. They have acknowledged problem and that's it.   It gets better, brake shoes replaced at about 20,000 k and rotors warped. Climate control system now blows little bits of white crap (plastic?) out of the front vents when it hasn't been on in a few days (really nice on a black interior). For that matter, the entire HVAC unit often seems like it is possessed and blows at high volume unexpectedly. Seats are brutally uncomfortable on long hauls. But you know what, mileage is better than I anticipated.   All this for the bargain price of $37,000 Canadian dollars. What really shocks me right now is that this vehicle is the finest Honda Passenger Sedan available. Think about that, this is their best Passenger Sedan. And it is a horrible car.   I owned a 2003 Accord V6, a 2005 Accord V6 and now this one. I will never purchase another Honda. Replies to this message: brian83 (Feb 03, 2009 6:22 pm)
#2053 of 2183 Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [isellhondas] by dpsports Feb 03, 2009 (5:43 pm)
Replying to: isellhondas (Jan 12, 2009 6:07 am) isellhondas.....according to the latest numbers, you're not selling many.    This is not the only place where Accord VCM issues are being discussed. There are many sites/forums and dealerships that are currently trying to do something to fix this problem, hopefully before it blows up just like the 2003-2007Accord Odometer SNAFU that resulted in your recent class-action lawsuit. I wait anxiously to receive my $450 in excess mileage charges I am now owed by Honda Leasing for the two vehicles I owned that had faulty odometers.   Did you defend those accusations as well?   Try this link   http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/reviews/article.aspx?cp-documentid=6119166   Strange, they can sense somethings not quite right either.
#2054 of 2183 One more time. by dpsports Feb 03, 2009 (5:54 pm)
Love this post isellhondas......oops, it's from another forum.......   http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=24338   Get the hint.   Don't try to fix our opinion. FIX THE PROBLEM.
#2055 of 2183 And another. by dpsports Feb 03, 2009 (5:57 pm)
Re: 2008 Accord- VCM Problems (Score: 1, Normal) 12-02-2008 18:22 Reply to This Message Attach Quote to Reply http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-message?message_id=738154&page_number=2&   I have horrible VCM problems. Vibration around town and the car struggles to find correct gear on highway. Actually, I don't believe it actually changes gears but it feels like it. It appears the VCM engaging and disengaging is causing some pausing and RPM change.   I HATE the VCM. If anyone knows a trick to turn it off I will do it in a heartbeat. Honda has driven the car and stated everything is "normal" . Riiiiight.   P.S. Please don't bother replying I am a liar. The last time I was on this board everyone jumped down my throat that I was flaming the board. I have owned many accords and loved them with the exeception of my 2008 V6. THe VCM ruins it. Replies to this message: jhinsc (Feb 04, 2009 12:57 pm)
#2056 of 2183 Re: deny, deny, deny........ [dpsports] by brian83 Feb 03, 2009 (6:22 pm)
Replying to: dpsports (Feb 03, 2009 5:23 pm) I feel for you, I am going through the same issues and with the car vibrations and have also been told by Honda Canada that this is a characteristic of the vehicle. I am waiting for my date for arbitration to present my case and hopefully be able to get Honda to purchase this vehicle back. This was my first and probably my last Honda that I will buy, they sure don't live up to their name..... You should try contacting Camvap,ca and request an arbitration hearing. If enough of us do this then maybe Honda will actually do something about the problem. I too am from Southern Ontario, have the vibration at 100-120/km, had front brakes replaced already, passenger seat is very uncomfortable on long rides, car handles terrible in snow and overall was a very big disappointment.
#2057 of 2183 Re: And another. [dpsports] by jhinsc Feb 04, 2009 (12:57 pm)
Replying to: dpsports (Feb 03, 2009 5:57 pm) I have horrible VCM problems. Vibration around town and the car struggles to find correct gear on highway. Actually, I don't believe it actually changes gears but it feels like it. It appears the VCM engaging and disengaging is causing some pausing and RPM change.   I may be wrong (and biased) since my VCM equipped Accord runs fine, but I think VCM works best in steady state driving. Not saying that you do, but I found most drivers are constantly moving their right foot on the gas pedal; up/down, up/down, it's annoying to ride as a passenger sometimes! And this is in a non-Honda car! All my roads where I live are 55 mph, so anywhere between 55 and 65 I set the cruise on where possible to achieve the best mpg's I can in my commute, even in between lights. I know when I'm in 4 cyl vs 3 cyl mode (due to vibrations or harmonics I feel and hear) and I try to keep in 3 cyl mode as long as possible. Sort of like driving a hybrid I guess, trying to drive as efficiently as possible. But when the driver in front can't make up their mind if they want to go 50 or 65, it can make it hard to drive at a steady speed. The only annoying thing for me so far was being a quart of oil low at 5,700 miles. I have over 6,400 miles now with no add'l oil usage and I'm still at 30% oil life.
#2058 of 2183 by brian83 Feb 04, 2009 (3:31 pm)
Believe you me the vibration is at a steady speed, once the vehicle hits around 100km/hr even with the cruise control on it vibrates. It is a very uncomfortable ride and very tiring for the driver. I drove the vehicle from Toronto to Rochester and was extremely tired by the time we arrived due to the vibrations.
#2059 of 2183 When researching... by dpsports Feb 07, 2009 (7:33 am)
my soon to be new car (yes, I'm trading the Accord), I happened upon this review.   http://www.canadiandriver.com/2008/11/05/test-drive-2009-honda-accord-ex-l-v6-na- vi.htm   and I quote When matched up with the automatic tranny, the Accord’s V6 gets Honda’s Variable Cylinder Management system, the latest version of which can shut off two or three cylinders to save fuel. It works well - a green “eco” light on the dash is the only obvious clue that the car isn’t running on all six cylinders - but keen drivers will notice a slight surging sensation during steady highway cruising as the engine switches among its three-, four- and six-cylinder modes.   Nice to know that I'm not losing my mind......   Good bye and good luck.

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