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2179 messages, Last post on Nov 19, 2009 at 8:41 AM
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jan 08, 2009 7:40 am) Sorry - have to agree with them there - the "spokes" of the wheel DO protrude further than the tires themselves and ARE susceptible to curb damage even when the tires themselves are not in contact with the curb. Bad design. These wheels are too expensive to expose them to being that easily damaged. They should be redesigned. Now if they were simply scraping the RIM of the wheel where the treadwall bead is secured to the wheel because they were too close - different story.
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Replying to: cstiles (Jan 07, 2009 8:22 pm) 1). "Wind and road noise are well isolated" - Huh? What car are they driving? 2). "The Accord is so quiet, comfortable and smooth on the road you don't get a sense of how fast you are really going" - This is so off, even by remote standards. Did they really test any of the other cars to compare? Changing the brand of tires helps some but this car is nothing but loud. The loudest Honda I've owned to date. 3). Not one mention of the VCM? Hearing a comment, either about the roughness (or smoothness) or even something related to MPG and how the VCM affected that would have been interesting. The only negative, if you will, was regarding speed times decreasing? This is not a race car. Come on Edmunds, I know you want to keep your sponsors happy but this is blatant.
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Replying to: sunnfun (Jan 09, 2009 8:06 am) 1) Wind noise is almost non-existent at legal speeds and among the quietest I've been exposed to, tire and road noise is ever present and about the worst I've been exposed to. 2) Not so quiet do to the road noise, very comfortable no problems with the seats that others have had issues with and speed is apparent, any tickets issued while driving this car can only be attributed to in-attentiveness, 35 MPH can sometimes feel like 45. 3) VCM is present in varying degrees depending on the terrain, cruising speed and attitude towards the throttle, and I'm inclined to include temperature as the recent 10-30 degree New England temps have raised my awareness of it's activity. |
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 08, 2009 4:14 pm) "I know what you're thinking, the actual cylinder deactivation process is annoying; there must be a shutter or a jolt when the system active and deactivates. Wrong. The annoying part is the light." This was a test involving 20,000 miles with multiple drivers, environments, driving styles, terrain, and intended/unintended biases. So lack of comment about the surging/vibration is relevant, IMO. It doesn't mean other cars don't have it, but this test example seemed to operate fine to the point hardly anyone even noticed abnormal cylinder operation, surging, vibration. The lack of comments does not suggest an incomplete review, as sunnfun said.
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Replying to: sunnfun (Jan 09, 2009 8:06 am) The long term testers obviously didn't have the same problems with the car, that you have. I'm sure if the car exhibited the same surging, and vibrations, some posters on this board describe, at least one of them would have mentioned it. According to some, ALL VCM Accords exhibit these "annoying" and "totally unacceptable" sensations. Apparently, NOT ALL of them do. Even Honda can make a Lemon or two out of 400k, and it seems you were one of the unlucky few. Maybe you will do a more thorough test drive next time, instead of assuming every car on the lot is perfect. I have read reviews on my car (03 EX V6) that were very critical, but my car has been every thing I could have hoped for. I've test driven two cars from the same dealership before, that were very different, despite being the same model and trim.
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Replying to: cstiles (Jan 09, 2009 9:11 am) I think your missing my point. Honda spent a considerable amount of money to market the benefits of VCM. And for them to not even mention it, positively or negatively tells me there is more to this story behind the scenes. I have read other articles regarding MPG and VCM, both for and against. I would have assumed Edmonds would have at least mentioned it. The good news is that I am going car shopping this weekend. I bought my wife a Lexus ES350 back in the summer and she loves it. I like driving it much more than my car. Provided I don't take to much of a loss, bye bye Honda. It is sad since I have been driving these cars for almost 20 years. But enough is enough. |
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 09, 2009 10:38 am)
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Replying to: sunnfun (Jan 09, 2009 11:26 am) So what you are saying is, All VCM Accords do it, and all of these testers were oblivious to it? As irritating as you all say VCM is, don't you think the testers would have noticed it? And commented on it? Do you think the testers felt the vibrations, and surging, and decided not to say anything, in effect lieing to the readers?
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