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Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [isellhondas] by ezshift5
Jan 07, 2009 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jan 07, 2009 5:54 am)

I'm in a suburb of Seattle and we have LOTS of traffic!
 
...you certainly do have traffic!
 
Last October rush hour driving: Hotel Deca - Seattle waterfront (ferry) was interesting. My Navy reunion shipmates agreed big time.
 
Still, my 6M calc'd out at 21 mpg around your city (but south on I-5 enroute home.......would you believe 35?)
 
..great car.
 
best, ez....
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Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [elroy5] by cstiles
Jan 07, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 05, 2009 8:03 pm)

Elroy...here is the wrap up.
 
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=123532/pageNumber=2
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Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [hondalvr1] by isellhondas
Jan 08, 2009 (7:40 am)
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Yes, they should have taken it in. Maybe the computer needed a reflash or something.
 
I loved the way they blamed scraping the alloy wheels on the car's design instead of on themselves for being careless had hitting curbs!
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Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [hondalvr1] by cstiles
Jan 08, 2009 (9:19 am)
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Actually, if you drill down and read all of the updates from the long term test, there are 45 different blog entries on the Accord. And VCM is addressed a few times. Here is one example....
 
http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2008/06/2008-honda-accord-ex-l-v6-econnoying.- html#more
 
Another variable with VCM could be weather and temperature. It seems that more of the complaints regarding VCM are coming from drivers who live in parts of the country where there is colder weather(?). The Edmunds test was conducted in nice weather in California, and it's possible that VCM performs more smoothly when the climate is warmer(?). Just speculation, however.
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Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [cstiles] by elroy5
Jan 08, 2009 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: cstiles (Jan 08, 2009 9:19 am)

That review was all about the light, and not any surging or vibrations. I would just cover or tint over the light. I've done that before with a bright light in a Nissan. Did any of the testers mention surging or vibrations? Seems like someone would have at least mentioned how smooth, or not smooth, the transitions were.
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Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [isellhondas] by hondalvr1
Jan 09, 2009 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Jan 08, 2009 7:40 am)

"I loved the way they blamed scraping the alloy wheels on the car's design instead of on themselves for being careless had hitting curbs! "
 
Sorry - have to agree with them there - the "spokes" of the wheel DO protrude further than the tires themselves and ARE susceptible to curb damage even when the tires themselves are not in contact with the curb. Bad design. These wheels are too expensive to expose them to being that easily damaged. They should be redesigned. Now if they were simply scraping the RIM of the wheel where the treadwall bead is secured to the wheel because they were too close - different story.
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Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [cstiles] by sunnfun
Jan 09, 2009 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: cstiles (Jan 07, 2009 8:22 pm)

There are 3 things that stuck out to me showing an incomplete review:
 
1). "Wind and road noise are well isolated" - Huh? What car are they driving?
2). "The Accord is so quiet, comfortable and smooth on the road you don't get a sense of how fast you are really going" - This is so off, even by remote standards. Did they really test any of the other cars to compare? Changing the brand of tires helps some but this car is nothing but loud. The loudest Honda I've owned to date.
3). Not one mention of the VCM? Hearing a comment, either about the roughness (or smoothness) or even something related to MPG and how the VCM affected that would have been interesting.
 
The only negative, if you will, was regarding speed times decreasing? This is not a race car. Come on Edmunds, I know you want to keep your sponsors happy but this is blatant.
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Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [sunnfun] by dpmeersman
Jan 09, 2009 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: sunnfun (Jan 09, 2009 8:06 am)

Closing in on 16 month of ownership and 16,000 miles I'll take a stab at addressing your 3 points:
 
1) Wind noise is almost non-existent at legal speeds and among the quietest I've been exposed to, tire and road noise is ever present and about the worst I've been exposed to.
 
2) Not so quiet do to the road noise, very comfortable no problems with the seats that others have had issues with and speed is apparent, any tickets issued while driving this car can only be attributed to in-attentiveness, 35 MPH can sometimes feel like 45.
 
3) VCM is present in varying degrees depending on the terrain, cruising speed and attitude towards the throttle, and I'm inclined to include temperature as the recent 10-30 degree New England temps have raised my awareness of it's activity.
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Re: The Joys of Honda VCM [elroy5] by cstiles
Jan 09, 2009 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 08, 2009 4:14 pm)

Actually, they did reference the surging/vibration....
 
"I know what you're thinking, the actual cylinder deactivation process is annoying; there must be a shutter or a jolt when the system active and deactivates. Wrong. The annoying part is the light."
 
This was a test involving 20,000 miles with multiple drivers, environments, driving styles, terrain, and intended/unintended biases. So lack of comment about the surging/vibration is relevant, IMO. It doesn't mean other cars don't have it, but this test example seemed to operate fine to the point hardly anyone even noticed abnormal cylinder operation, surging, vibration. The lack of comments does not suggest an incomplete review, as sunnfun said.

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