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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up by elliott2
Dec 31, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Dec 29, 2008 1:16 pm)

Except that 90% of the posts address problems. The consumer reports blog site and others also are predominantly about problems as well. Honda customers expect Honda products to run well; when that doesn't happen, the customers complain. You don't see too many posts that say: I expected the car to run well and it does.
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Dropped the deuce today... by merlion0821
Dec 31, 2008 (4:13 pm)
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Well, I finally called it quits on the turd of an '08 Accord today. The VCM was more than I was willing to put up with in the long term, and I traded it in.
 
I waited around until it had over 4K miles hoping that it might clear up, as some had reported. It actually got worse I believe. Granted, I'm pretty anal about my vehicles, but I think even a non-car person would have felt the gyrations this vehicle would constantly do.
 
It was a great vehicle around town, but when you would be dealing with speeds from 45-75 it was a major pain in the behind. Vibrations, surging, etc. And no, it was NOT wheel or tire related, this was checked.
 
And yes, I complained to the dealer, and Honda. It didn't matter though, in the end it was always called "normal" operation. The dealer was especially arrogant about the whole thing. My whole point was if you have V-6's that don't exhibit this behavior, what is the difference, and why can't you fix it?
 
I took a hit financially getting rid of this car, but keeping it and dealing with the VCM headache would have been even worse in my opinion. Good riddance.
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [merlion0821] by elroy5
Dec 31, 2008 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: merlion0821 (Dec 31, 2008 4:13 pm)

So??? What did you trade it in for?
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [elroy5] by merlion0821
Dec 31, 2008 (5:18 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Dec 31, 2008 4:46 pm)

I ended up getting an '09 Acura TL. The '08 Accord with VCM has been my only bad Honda product out of 5 so far though, so I'm not writing off Honda products quite yet.
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [merlion0821] by elroy5
Dec 31, 2008 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: merlion0821 (Dec 31, 2008 5:18 pm)

I ended up getting an '09 Acura TL.
 
ooooo, Nice!
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [merlion0821] by elliott2
Jan 01, 2009 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: merlion0821 (Dec 31, 2008 4:13 pm)

I could kick myself for not doing more research on people's reaction to Honda's VCM. The following was out on another website since the car was first introduced in 2007:
 
The 08 Accords VCM operation is VERY noticeable and at times can be annoying.The car (especially) on highway driving is constantly surging and or hesitating as it decides what cylinder mode it wants to be in, the activation of grade logic and the constant 3 mode 6-4-3 cylinder operation of the VCM. The car vibrates especially at higher speeds and the ANC (active noice cancel) does not seem to be as effective as Honda would market it to be. Expect lots of road noise in this new vehicle. This is one of the most documented complaints thus far on top of the VCM activity and then vibration. The new 08 Accord is a terrific design and looks sharp, almost BMW-like. The finish of the car is excellent and the new designed interior is awesome. However, if you decide to buy this car, take it for a long drive on both city streets, and interstate for 30 minutes MIN. Pay close attention in the 45 mph and 60-70mph speeds. These seem to be the hot zones for the VCM surging and or shifting sensations. Of course this is my opinion and experience as well as a other new V6 owners across the web.
 
In the end, every driver is different. Do your due diligence and homework, feel the car for yourself and make the call...
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [elliott2] by surfsalterpath
Jan 01, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: elliott2 (Jan 01, 2009 4:46 am)

...I have ~16,000 miles on my '08 ex-l. So far I have not had any noticeable vibration issues. There is sometimes slight surging at the 45 mile per hour range but not too bad. The road noise is an issue that I had heard about Honda's before I purchased. That should be a fairly easy thing for Honda to overcome. When I was researching I found the Camry had some type of carpet pad protection in the wheel wells which I am sure helped somewhat. Honda take notice..
 
I made the decision to move away from the Maxima, had 7 new ones since 1985 and pretty much loved them all till my 2001 anniversary edition. Nissan dropped the ball when building/designing this unit, hence my Nissan defection.
 
If there are issues prevelant on this '08 accord I want to see Honda Executives be proactive and take care of these customer issues or I will not be purchasing 7 new Honda Accords and will hit the research mkt again.
 
So where are your 'executive responses' Mr Honda executive dude? Doesn't Japanese culture demand you to respond to those with issues who decided to invest in the Honda brand? Time to save face. Please do not begin to fall down that slippery slope of not caring about your clients like the American auto industry has done for years. You see where that client service attitude got them.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [elliott2] by jhinsc
Jan 01, 2009 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: elliott2 (Dec 31, 2008 9:51 am)

You don't see too many posts that say: I expected the car to run well and it does.
 
No you don't, but when someone like me who has had a great experience with VCM does post, someone like sunnfun and others take offense to it, thinking we either don't believe them, or what we are saying is not true. Isell's comments are a counterpoint to many of you posting here and I believe what he says is just as valid as everyone else's. He does not attack anyone, but he brings balance to the discussion. I'm not discounting anyone's experiences, but this discussion appears to be a bit one-sided. There are 2 sides, maybe more to every story. Trying to add a little balance to the discussion does no harm to anyone, but if all it does is create a retaliatory response, I have to question the responder's motives.
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [elliott2] by holew
Jan 01, 2009 (11:46 pm)
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Replying to: elliott2 (Jan 01, 2009 4:46 am)

Please excuse the tone of this message but I am beginning to think that there is a plot to defame Honda on their VCM engine. In other words the whole thing is contrived bunch of BS. I took delivery on my 2008 EXL V-6 VCM on 22 Dec 2007 and have since put well over 20,000 miles on it with at least three round trips form Maryland to Florida. I was most aware of the allegations of the VCM surging on this very message board before I bought the car. As a result I test drove an 08 VCM about 25 miles just to verify for myself that there was no problem. I am very fussy about engine performance and am able to detect the slightest engine miss. Only once have I ever noticed any surging problem. This was driving on a level road with cruise control set at 40 MPH. The engine kept surging up to about 42 and then back again with the accompanying change in RPMs. I left this go on for about a mile. I then just tapped the cruise control button for a split second which reduced the set speed to 39 MPH and the entire surge condition disappeared and has never returned since at any speed. When driving on I-95 to Florida I use the cruise control extensively and the is absolutely no VCM surging.
 
The V6 VCM engine is as smooth as the V8 in my LS430 Lexus. I have to laugh at your writing that the surge problem of the VCM Honda engine is one of the most documented complaints. Yes, i know there have been a lot of messages on this board about the VCM but they are from relatively few people.
 
I find it most unusual that I have never had any of the problems you have indicated. My car was one of the first made for 2008. If this were a problem I would have thought I would have experienced it along with all the others on this message board.
 
It would be interesting to see how many owners of an 08 VCM Honda have not experienced this problem. You can put me down as number one.
 
I am wondering why Honda does not add a feature to this engine to allow it to run on one or two cylinders when at idle such as at a traffic light. Surely that would same additional fuel.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [jhinsc] by sunnfun
Jan 02, 2009 (4:09 am)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Jan 01, 2009 7:12 pm)

Re-Read my post. I said if you want to come and say how great the VCM is for you - great. It does not bother me. Kinda makes you look silly telling eveyone your car is working like it should and you got what you paid for, but hey that's your right. The problem is when people, now such as yourself, come here and tell people in my situation, that we should not discuss, or tell other people to stay away from Honda based on our experience (in my case 20 years worth) I think you have crossed the line. 2nd - I find it funny that you are defending a Honda employee - can he not stand up for himself? This issue with Isellhondas has been going on for some time and you are joining late.

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