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Re: My bottom line... [isellhondas] by goltr_man
Dec 29, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 29, 2008 10:36 am)

I have posted on this site a number of times that it is good to let others know about the VCM here and every other place we can find but the most important place to complain is with HONDA. If everyone of us here who knows this problem is real and a $30,000 dollar pain is the (you know what) would take the time and complain to HONDA we might be able to get them to fix it. I can't tell you the number of folks I have told to stay away from Honda. The fact Honda isn't doing something, anything really has turned me off from this product. GO COMPLAIN TO HONDA and tell them to read this site !!! Thanks again.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [sunnfun] by jhinsc
Dec 29, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: sunnfun (Dec 29, 2008 10:12 am)

...You saying that every car out of your dealership has never been returned with one VCM compliant, and further, that no one in the service dept has ever heard of a thing regarding the VCM issue is false....
 
I'm not trying to stick up for isell, but how do you know if your statement is true? And unless you can prove or justify it, doesn't it invalidate all your comments just like you try to invalidate isell's?
 
The title of this forum is "Honda Accord VCM", NOT "Honda Accord VCM Problems". Everyone's opinion and experiences, good and bad, and without slamming each other, should be welcomed. I know your experience is different from the majority of buyer's, and it's frustrating to think no one is paying attention to it. Just realize that buyers like myself have positive comments to make about VCM and it characteristics and operation.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [jhinsc] by sunnfun
Dec 31, 2008 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Dec 29, 2008 1:16 pm)

1). How do I know if his statement is true? If you go back and look at posts from earlier this year - we had the same EXACT conversation. He said he went and talked to his Service Dept and they had never heard of any VCM issues. Many months later - same story - even after he admitted he had spoked with them regarding the VCM issue. So they have at least heard it from him. If his dealership does as much business as he claims, I find it hard to believe not ONE person has come back to complain about the VCM. My dealer gets "a few per week" is what I was told. Every car off his lot is perfect- yeah right. It ticks me off to no end hearing this junk from Honda and from a Honda employee, especially after 20 loyal years of driving these cars.
2). If you want to post how great your VCM is- go for it. Doesn't bother me. But DON'T tell me not to complain (not that you have), or for me to tell people my experience and my recomendation on whether to buy this car.(NOT)
3). To others - I have called Honda. I have complained. I have opened a case. I have taken it back to the dealer who acknowledged I was right but said all VCM's do that. I have test driven others that do the same thing. I have watched Honda change the marketing BS from "seemless and unnoticable to the driver" to "NEARLY seemless". That's a major change in my book. Especially halfway through the 1st year on a re-design.
4). I have been back to the dealer to have fixed/replaced: The windshield (rock cracked it), the rear wheel bearing (hummed like an airplane), the rear speakers because of the vibration (this is a know issue), valves adjusted because it sounded like a lawnmower (another know issue), a software upgrade to fix the slow shift to 2nd gear (another known issue). All of this in the 1st year. Add Honda's response to the VCM and would I recommend this car to someone - NO.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up by elliott2
Dec 31, 2008 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Dec 29, 2008 1:16 pm)

Except that 90% of the posts address problems. The consumer reports blog site and others also are predominantly about problems as well. Honda customers expect Honda products to run well; when that doesn't happen, the customers complain. You don't see too many posts that say: I expected the car to run well and it does.
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Dropped the deuce today... by merlion0821
Dec 31, 2008 (4:13 pm)
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Well, I finally called it quits on the turd of an '08 Accord today. The VCM was more than I was willing to put up with in the long term, and I traded it in.
 
I waited around until it had over 4K miles hoping that it might clear up, as some had reported. It actually got worse I believe. Granted, I'm pretty anal about my vehicles, but I think even a non-car person would have felt the gyrations this vehicle would constantly do.
 
It was a great vehicle around town, but when you would be dealing with speeds from 45-75 it was a major pain in the behind. Vibrations, surging, etc. And no, it was NOT wheel or tire related, this was checked.
 
And yes, I complained to the dealer, and Honda. It didn't matter though, in the end it was always called "normal" operation. The dealer was especially arrogant about the whole thing. My whole point was if you have V-6's that don't exhibit this behavior, what is the difference, and why can't you fix it?
 
I took a hit financially getting rid of this car, but keeping it and dealing with the VCM headache would have been even worse in my opinion. Good riddance.
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [merlion0821] by elroy5
Dec 31, 2008 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: merlion0821 (Dec 31, 2008 4:13 pm)

So??? What did you trade it in for?
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [elroy5] by merlion0821
Dec 31, 2008 (5:18 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Dec 31, 2008 4:46 pm)

I ended up getting an '09 Acura TL. The '08 Accord with VCM has been my only bad Honda product out of 5 so far though, so I'm not writing off Honda products quite yet.
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [merlion0821] by elroy5
Dec 31, 2008 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: merlion0821 (Dec 31, 2008 5:18 pm)

I ended up getting an '09 Acura TL.
 
ooooo, Nice!
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [merlion0821] by elliott2
Jan 01, 2009 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: merlion0821 (Dec 31, 2008 4:13 pm)

I could kick myself for not doing more research on people's reaction to Honda's VCM. The following was out on another website since the car was first introduced in 2007:
 
The 08 Accords VCM operation is VERY noticeable and at times can be annoying.The car (especially) on highway driving is constantly surging and or hesitating as it decides what cylinder mode it wants to be in, the activation of grade logic and the constant 3 mode 6-4-3 cylinder operation of the VCM. The car vibrates especially at higher speeds and the ANC (active noice cancel) does not seem to be as effective as Honda would market it to be. Expect lots of road noise in this new vehicle. This is one of the most documented complaints thus far on top of the VCM activity and then vibration. The new 08 Accord is a terrific design and looks sharp, almost BMW-like. The finish of the car is excellent and the new designed interior is awesome. However, if you decide to buy this car, take it for a long drive on both city streets, and interstate for 30 minutes MIN. Pay close attention in the 45 mph and 60-70mph speeds. These seem to be the hot zones for the VCM surging and or shifting sensations. Of course this is my opinion and experience as well as a other new V6 owners across the web.
 
In the end, every driver is different. Do your due diligence and homework, feel the car for yourself and make the call...
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Re: Dropped the deuce today... [elliott2] by surfsalterpath
Jan 01, 2009 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: elliott2 (Jan 01, 2009 4:46 am)

...I have ~16,000 miles on my '08 ex-l. So far I have not had any noticeable vibration issues. There is sometimes slight surging at the 45 mile per hour range but not too bad. The road noise is an issue that I had heard about Honda's before I purchased. That should be a fairly easy thing for Honda to overcome. When I was researching I found the Camry had some type of carpet pad protection in the wheel wells which I am sure helped somewhat. Honda take notice..
 
I made the decision to move away from the Maxima, had 7 new ones since 1985 and pretty much loved them all till my 2001 anniversary edition. Nissan dropped the ball when building/designing this unit, hence my Nissan defection.
 
If there are issues prevelant on this '08 accord I want to see Honda Executives be proactive and take care of these customer issues or I will not be purchasing 7 new Honda Accords and will hit the research mkt again.
 
So where are your 'executive responses' Mr Honda executive dude? Doesn't Japanese culture demand you to respond to those with issues who decided to invest in the Honda brand? Time to save face. Please do not begin to fall down that slippery slope of not caring about your clients like the American auto industry has done for years. You see where that client service attitude got them.

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