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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [isellhondas] by anthonyy
Dec 27, 2008 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 26, 2008 6:38 pm)

No, Absolutely no, it is not a wheel balance problem. The Honda Service manager at first they also thought it might be a problem with the wheels. They put four new ties then went on the test drive with me on the hoghway and it did not eliminate the vibration so they change the four tires back.
 
There are a lot of the people out there who does not drive on the highway often and if they are on the highway they do not drive around 55 to 62 mph so they have not realize they might have the vibration problem.
 
This is the reason I advice to all of you, do not take a chance with Honda, Go to Toyota or Nissan Moytor, They will responsible companies.
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Re: Vibration/25-year owner's perception: [isellhondas] by ezshift5
Dec 27, 2008 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 27, 2008 10:53 am)

Where is Freeport anyway?
 
..........due south of the State Capitol Rotunda - - - maybe 10 miles (big time distance from Sidney - - where I had a great visit courtesy of the US/Royal Australian Navies................)
 
best, ez....
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [anthonyy] by isellhondas
Dec 27, 2008 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: anthonyy (Dec 27, 2008 2:45 pm)

You are assuming this is a widespread problem and you are also assuming that Toyota and Nissan never have any sort of problems with any of their cars.
 
I was in a V-6 Accord today on the highway and I, once again, made an effort to hear or feel this...nothing. My customer loved the car and made no comments about anything adverse either.
 
Again, I'm sorry you are this unhappy with your Honda but, please, don't try to steer people away from a great car when they will probably not be affected by this.
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Re: Vibration/25-year owner's perception: [ezshift5] by isellhondas
Dec 27, 2008 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: ezshift5 (Dec 27, 2008 3:21 pm)

In your profile, it says CA and I assumed it meant California. I'm from CA and I had never heard of that town...thanks!
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [isellhondas] by sunnfun
Dec 29, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 27, 2008 5:00 pm)

Look - I realize this is a public board and you can say what you want within the rules. But telling someone that their issue will "probably" not affect others and to stop "steering people away" is unfair. I realize you are a Honda employee but you lost credibility long ago with the "I have never heard of any issues with the VCM" statement (or something to that affect - and yes you and I have had this "chat" before). I can give you 2 MAJOR dealers on the East coast that deal with this everyday. You saying that every car out of your dealership has never been returned with one VCM compliant, and further, that no one in the service dept has ever heard of a thing regarding the VCM issue is false. You stated months ago that you asked them about it, so they have at least heard it from you months ago. It makes me wonder if you are not a Honda Corporate employee trying to do a little CYA? STOP minimizing the VCM issues we have had with this car. You (and Honda corporate) are EXACTLY the reason there is a VCM issue by continuing to deny any knowledge or accept any responsbility and refusing to engineer a fix. Enough is Enough.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [sunnfun] by ncjim
Dec 29, 2008 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: sunnfun (Dec 29, 2008 10:12 am)

Ditto to sunnfun's post. I posted a month ago indicating that I had successfully prevented two sets of friends from getting near a Honda dealership. I am now proud to say that number has increased to three.
 
I am now at 6000 miles in the POS. (08 V-6). And no, the VCM problem did not disappear at 4-5K, as some suggested it might. Just returned my online owner's survey. Wow...that was fun! My first and last Honda. Unfortunately, we now live in a world where fessing up and fixing your mess is a thing of the past. Why would a customer going through this blatantly obvious VCM problem say to a friend: "Mine is a piece of crap, but I think you should go and buy one, too"? The bottom line is that Honda knows about this, privately acknowledges it, and has made a corporate decision to ignore it. There is your bottom line, isellhondas.
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My bottom line... by isellhondas
Dec 29, 2008 (10:36 am)
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Once again, I don't doubt that some of you detect what to you is a problem and it may be a problem. I'm not questioning that.
 
It just seems odd (to me) that the ONLY place I have heard anything about this is right here.
 
Of course, I'm sure nobody believes me.
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Re: My bottom line... [isellhondas] by goltr_man
Dec 29, 2008 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Dec 29, 2008 10:36 am)

I have posted on this site a number of times that it is good to let others know about the VCM here and every other place we can find but the most important place to complain is with HONDA. If everyone of us here who knows this problem is real and a $30,000 dollar pain is the (you know what) would take the time and complain to HONDA we might be able to get them to fix it. I can't tell you the number of folks I have told to stay away from Honda. The fact Honda isn't doing something, anything really has turned me off from this product. GO COMPLAIN TO HONDA and tell them to read this site !!! Thanks again.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [sunnfun] by jhinsc
Dec 29, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: sunnfun (Dec 29, 2008 10:12 am)

...You saying that every car out of your dealership has never been returned with one VCM compliant, and further, that no one in the service dept has ever heard of a thing regarding the VCM issue is false....
 
I'm not trying to stick up for isell, but how do you know if your statement is true? And unless you can prove or justify it, doesn't it invalidate all your comments just like you try to invalidate isell's?
 
The title of this forum is "Honda Accord VCM", NOT "Honda Accord VCM Problems". Everyone's opinion and experiences, good and bad, and without slamming each other, should be welcomed. I know your experience is different from the majority of buyer's, and it's frustrating to think no one is paying attention to it. Just realize that buyers like myself have positive comments to make about VCM and it characteristics and operation.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [jhinsc] by sunnfun
Dec 31, 2008 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Dec 29, 2008 1:16 pm)

1). How do I know if his statement is true? If you go back and look at posts from earlier this year - we had the same EXACT conversation. He said he went and talked to his Service Dept and they had never heard of any VCM issues. Many months later - same story - even after he admitted he had spoked with them regarding the VCM issue. So they have at least heard it from him. If his dealership does as much business as he claims, I find it hard to believe not ONE person has come back to complain about the VCM. My dealer gets "a few per week" is what I was told. Every car off his lot is perfect- yeah right. It ticks me off to no end hearing this junk from Honda and from a Honda employee, especially after 20 loyal years of driving these cars.
2). If you want to post how great your VCM is- go for it. Doesn't bother me. But DON'T tell me not to complain (not that you have), or for me to tell people my experience and my recomendation on whether to buy this car.(NOT)
3). To others - I have called Honda. I have complained. I have opened a case. I have taken it back to the dealer who acknowledged I was right but said all VCM's do that. I have test driven others that do the same thing. I have watched Honda change the marketing BS from "seemless and unnoticable to the driver" to "NEARLY seemless". That's a major change in my book. Especially halfway through the 1st year on a re-design.
4). I have been back to the dealer to have fixed/replaced: The windshield (rock cracked it), the rear wheel bearing (hummed like an airplane), the rear speakers because of the vibration (this is a know issue), valves adjusted because it sounded like a lawnmower (another know issue), a software upgrade to fix the slow shift to 2nd gear (another known issue). All of this in the 1st year. Add Honda's response to the VCM and would I recommend this car to someone - NO.

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