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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [stevecar] by csr67
Dec 23, 2008 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: stevecar (Dec 22, 2008 8:59 am)

"Obviously the VCM issue preclude getting a V6. "
 
Don't judge the v6 based on internet discussion forums.. There are plenty of Accord V6 owners who have no issue with the VCM, me being one of them. Go drive a V6 Accord and judge for yourself. I'm very happy that I went with the v6 over the I4. My 2008 v6 has no issues and the smooth power of the 6 is well worth it.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [csr67] by stevecar
Dec 23, 2008 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: csr67 (Dec 23, 2008 7:59 am)

When we go to test drive it, what can we do to really test to see if there are issues with that particular car? Is it the fact that all the V-6's are the same and certain drivers are more sensitive to the 6-4-3 changes?
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [stevecar] by keitha3
Dec 23, 2008 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: stevecar (Dec 22, 2008 8:59 am)

I agree. I started off with a pretty healthy list of cars that I would consider. I crossed the Accord off early based on what I was reading about the VCM. Eventually, I decided to at least test drive one and ended up buying the car. I did keep the VCM problems in mind and tried to duplicate them on my long test drive. I'm loving my Accord with no problems at my early stage of ownership (always knocking on wood).
 
I have no doubts that the problem does exist. I don't begrudge those with the problem fuming and expressing it loudly here. I would do the same thing. Honda's cavalier attitude would send me off the edge most though.
 
Nonetheless, why write the car off if most are fine in this regard, which appears to be the case? As I said, I had the same reservations as you, but now am happy I chose the Accord.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [stevecar] by keitha3
Dec 23, 2008 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: stevecar (Dec 23, 2008 9:21 am)

I explained to my dealer my reservations and that I would only consider the car if I was allowed however long a test drive I needed to at least ease my concerns. I also wanted to see if I had a problem with the seat comfort as quite a few had problems in this arena as well. I had just bought from them a month or so before, so they knew me and were more than willing to oblige.
 
So, with lumbar support in the seats deflated, off we went. It was early Saturday morning and we drove mainly on a section of freeway I knew wouldn't be crowded that time of day. I had with me a list of speeds that were listed as problematic and tested the car at these speeds, with and without cruise control being engaged, over and over. Honestly, except for the green VCM light flashing on and off on the dash, I didn't notice much, if anything, certainly not anything that I would find annoying.
 
We returned and I bought my Accord.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [stevecar] by anthonyy
Dec 23, 2008 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: stevecar (Dec 22, 2008 8:59 am)

Be very careful , Honda Motor did not correct the problem with their engine. Same engine are in this year's Accord. Also the attitude of Honda Service is part of our reason for leaving Honda after over 26 years with Honda.
 
We went to Nissan and bought a Nissan Murano. It gave us good milage . The service is great. I felt we should have swtch to Nissan Motor earlier.
 
To those who are ready to purchase another car please make sure you test drive on the high way to make it do not have vibration around 60 mph. (the engine skips fire causing the vibration).
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [anthonyy] by jhinsc
Dec 23, 2008 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: anthonyy (Dec 23, 2008 11:19 am)

Ok, I'll pipe in here. As an 08 V6 owner, I believe there is no problem for Honda to correct, therefore why would Honda even think about using a different engine? Granted, some drivers are more sensitive and don't like the 6-4-3 cyl transition, but that doesn't mean anything is wrong with it. I can feel it going between 6-4-3 cyl modes and I try hard to keep it in 4 or 3 cyl most of the time. My last tank of gas I got 25.3 mpg in mixed driving. I am very pleased with my Honda!
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Thanks for the Heads Up [jhinsc] by elliott2
Dec 23, 2008 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Dec 23, 2008 11:42 am)

Honda does have a problem to fix. While the vibration is most noticable at 60 mph and above, there is also a vibration caused by the torque converter lock up at speeds as low as 25 mph. I talked with the mechanic from our Honda dealership and he said that off the record they are getting a lot of complaints. Honda has given the dealership scripted responses.
 
The vibration and noise has become more pronounced on my car now that it has 10,000 miles. Threre are times when driving around town, particularly on hilly roads, that the car is just outright annoying as the engine changes back and forth the number of cylinders that are misfiring and the transmission tries to adjust with the engine and terrain.
 
I'd take back my 2003 Accord in a minute. While the 2008 Accord is a good looking car, I woulnd't buy or lease one now that I've experienced the problems. The other problem that is less reported but growing is the number of drivers complaining about the sound of gas sloshing in the tank.
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Re: Thanks for the Heads Up [elliott2] by jhinsc
Dec 23, 2008 (8:20 pm)
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Replying to: elliott2 (Dec 23, 2008 4:06 pm)

I don't know what to say about your problems since I'm having a completely different experience with my car. I haven't heard anything about a torque converter problem. I don't know what you mean by cylinders misfiring because if it actually happens, that would cause emission problems with fouled up oxygen sensors and catalytic converters, and the EPA would all over that. Everyday I see more new Accords, both 4 and 6 cyl's on the road. Honda must be doing something right!
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re. VCM Problem by jhu1972
Dec 23, 2008 (11:21 pm)
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I have driven my 2008 V6 Accord Coupe for 5 months and have not experienced any problems with the VCM. I notice when it engages because I see the light go on. There is a slight difference in engine sound, almost like a gear shift. If not for the light, I probably wouldn't even notice.
Re. the vibration problem. I haven't experienced one situation where I had any kind of vibration problem.
As another poster stated, I don't deny that some cars do have problems but I have experienced none of them. I would not discourage someone from buying a V6 but I would point them to this forum and encourage them to take a test drive at varying speeds and conditions.
The only thing I would do differently is wait for a 6-speed to be available instead of the automatic that I bought.
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Thanks for the Heads Up [jhinsc] by elliott2
Dec 24, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Dec 23, 2008 8:20 pm)

That's great that you're not having problems. We had absolutely no problems with our 2003 Accord; however, it had several recalls and received one of lower ratings from Consumer Reports for a Honda. Apparently we were lucky. The 2003 engine and transmission were much smoother than the 2008.

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