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Re: Reply from Honda [itochu] by goltr_man
Nov 14, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: itochu (Feb 24, 2008 10:07 pm)

Sir you have hit the nail on the head, Honda knows it has a design defect and is denying it. We as owners need to fill Honda's complaint department with emails like I have read here instead of on sights like this. If each one of us takes our email complaint from this sight and copies it onto Honda's customer service email sight than it will be in the hands of the company who has the problem. There must be thousands of complaints about this issue all over the internet but they should be in the lap of Honda. At some point they will be forced to do a program update to correct this issue. It is very important to have sights like these to see if the problems we are having are the same as others have but the followup must be to get our complaints in Honda's hands. I for one think Hondas are great cars and I like almost everything about my new Accord but this problem bothers me so much that on trips I take our CRV and leave the Accord home. Had I known up front I would have bought the four cylinder! Thank You
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Torque Converter by abeeb
Nov 14, 2008 (8:27 am)
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I am one of the V6 owners who has had only slight issues with the "surging" problem that has been described often on this forum. I have also felt some improvement over the 12 months that I have now owned the car. However, today driving to work, it seemed to be more pronounced again and the surging feeling reminded me of at least a couple of references made here regarding the possibility that the torque converter is disengaging and engaging. It should be noted that this surging is not necessarily linked to the ECO light turning off and on, but appears to occur somewhat randomly.
 
I really feel the torque converter might be the actual feeling experienced. Has anyone given this theory any more thought or had this checked out? Is anyone aware of adjustments that can be made specifically to the operation of the torque converter that might rectify at least the surging feeling?
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Re: Reply from Honda [goltr_man] by anthonyy
Nov 14, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: goltr_man (Nov 14, 2008 7:55 am)

I agreed with you 100 % . But I am not very good with typing and computer. So can you send all the messages to Honda Motor ?
 
Thank you
Anthony
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Re: Torque Converter [abeeb] by dpmeersman
Nov 14, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: abeeb (Nov 14, 2008 8:27 am)

Not knowing what part of the country your from, I'm curious if your increases in noticeable VCM activity might be related to the ambient temperature. I've had less noticeable occurrences of VCM activity over the last 4-5 months where the temperature has usually been above 50 degrees. Now that the NE temperature has been in the 20's and 30's(early AM mostly) the VCM activity seems more pronounced.
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Re: Torque Converter [dpmeersman] by abeeb
Nov 14, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: dpmeersman (Nov 14, 2008 11:44 am)

I live in Saskatchewan in Canada, so yes, the temperatures are definitely lower now - around 30 deg F right now - and I think you're right that there might be a relation between temperature and the surging activity.
 
I've only had my car in twice (just for oil changes) since I've owned it so I haven't had Honda check into this issue at all, but I will suggest the torque converter theory to them next time. Again, if anyone else out there has more thoughts on this, please respond.
 
(By the way, you'll note that I said the only two times I've had the car in for service were for regular oil changes. In this respect, my high expectations on the reliability of the car are clearly met!)
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Re: Torque Converter [abeeb] by dpmeersman
Nov 14, 2008 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: abeeb (Nov 14, 2008 12:53 pm)

Agree on the reliability aspect as mine is 14,600 miles and showing 20% oil life and the first change was done 7,600 miles, any other issues seem to have remedied themselves.
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2008 Honda Accord Problems by elliott2
Nov 20, 2008 (4:21 pm)
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While the fit and finish on this car is attractive, the quality is not up to Honda's past vehicles. I have the misfortune of having the 2008 V6. Why Honda would screw up what was a velvet smooth engine for an engine that by design cannot help but vibrate (otherwise there wouldn't be a need for the liquid filled, computer controlled engine mounts and active noise cancellation system). It's clear that Honda is aware of the problem as they decided to not bring the engine over to the Acura TL.
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Re: 2008 Honda Accord Problems [elliott2] by dpmeersman
Nov 20, 2008 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: elliott2 (Nov 20, 2008 4:21 pm)

While in agreement that this six lacks the smoothness & finesse of the previous Accord six, many current sixes have lost that smoothness as they've grown in displacement. This particular six even more so as the devices engineered to make it's variable displacement as transparent as possible fail to achieve that goal on some occasions. But the 2 cars are marketed to different segments and the lack of torque or narrow torque band on the VCM six would be a bad fit for the TL, which is marketed as a sport sedan not a family sedan where the additional fuel economy appeals to that buyer. The TL does have active noise cancellation. Despite it's shortcomings, I'm more pleased than displeased with my 08 EX-L V6 and feel that it's about as good as it gets for the 25K to 28K you pay. If they made perfect cars in this price range why would anyone pay more. Factor in it's reliability and resale values and for under 30K it's a pretty sweet ride.
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Re: 2008 Honda Accord Problems [dpmeersman] by elliott2
Nov 21, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: dpmeersman (Nov 20, 2008 5:53 pm)

I wish I could say the same about my 08 EX-LNAV V6. It's nowhere near perfection and is downright annoying between the vibration and the surging on the highway. Even at speeds as low as 25 mph, the car vibrates when the engine is running on a lower number of cylinders. As far as the reliability and resale values, let's hope you're right. Not so sure this particular year model year will retain its resale value, particularly since, according to Consumer Reports, the Accord has been elbowed out of the top echelon by other more compelling cars in the same price range.
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VCM problem with the V6 Accord by goltr_man
Nov 26, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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I have owned my 2009 V6 Accord for several months and 2000 miles and the VCM system makes the car seems schizophrenic. With or without the cruise being on the engine can't decide whether it wants to be a 6, 4, 3 cylinder and each time it changes you can feel the lag or surge. I have call the Honda Customer Care number 800-999-1009 filed a complaint. I have owned seven Honda’s over the years and as much as I like all the rest of this car I leave it home on long drives and that our CRV. I have read many complaints on many different websites and I suggest to all of you, please take your complaint up with Honda where if enough of us complain then maybe they will fix the issue. To me this can be corrected by a computer upgrade. The chips on the computer board can be alter if need be. When enough of us make it clear to Honda that this is not expectable than maybe we will see action! To spend $30K and not enjoy the car is very sad and for sure will make me think outside of Honda next time. I am very honest with anyone who asks me about the Accord. Okay enough said, please call the number above!

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