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Accord 2009 V6 EX-L Shuddering problem by hondaacc09
Oct 31, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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I bought my Accord 2009 V6 EX-L about 5 weeks ago. It's love at first sight when I first saw it on the freeway, love the appearance and interior. Currently it has only about 1,500 miles on it.
 
It ran great for first 3 weeks, after that it's surging and hesitating all the time on the freeway at around 60-80 mph. I'm curtain that it's not a shifting, because I don't see the rpm bounces when it happens.
How often does it surges? From my home to my office, it's about 23 miles. This car surges anywhere from 3-20 times. Twice/day, 5 days/wk - It's driving me crazy!!
 
Not only that, very often it shudders before a completed stop.
I owned many Honda vehicles in the past (Accord'85, Legend'92, Accord'95) very please with them, never expected to have this kind of problem with Honda car.
 
Last weekend I took 2 of my friends for a ride (I didn't mentions anything about surging), one of them asked me "Why your car hiccups?" LOL.
 
I'm heading to the dealer this weekend, but after reading lot of postings in many forums, I know what to expect to hear from them. LOL.
 
Can Honda Motor categorizes what many many people consider a problem as a "characteristic of the car" and get away with these type of answers?
 
It's so irresponsible if Honda Motor tells those who have this problem that surging/shuddering is a characteristic of this car.
 
I've got the feeling this will be my last Honda vehicle.
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by fslaugts
Nov 03, 2008 (6:37 am)
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I am in the market for a new car. Thanks all for posting about the VCM problem. I would now think twice and probably not buy the Accord. I don't care if it test drove prefect. I don't like this 6-4-3 stuff. I think there are better ways to improve gas mileage.
 
Fred
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Re: [fslaugts] by thegraduate
Nov 03, 2008 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: fslaugts (Nov 03, 2008 6:37 am)

Just remember, if there's a problem, people are likely to voice their opinion. If your car drives just fine, you likely aren't going to go out of your way to find a forum like this just to say "I don't have a problem, my car is great."
 
Don't write off an entire car-line because a few people had problems; trust me, every car make out there will produce models with inherent problems. Extensively test drive your car; other posters feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody's car has developed this issue after driving for a certain period of time; its been right from the start if they do happen to have an issue.
 
I'm not discounting the problems here, but there has been much debate over this issue here, and for every person with this problem, there are more who do not have it, or it'd be a very public issue (a' la Toyota sludge a decade ago).
 
Just take everyone here (myself included) with a grain of salt. Let's be honest, when there is a problem with something I own, I make a bigger deal out of it than most would because it is MINE. Others likely do the same.
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by robotaz2
Nov 03, 2008 (7:43 am)
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I made the very foolish mistake of buying an Accord with VCM and am furious at Honda and of course myself. THE PROBLEMS THAT MANY DESCRIBE WITH SURGING, VIBRATION, AND HUMMING SOUNDS ARE REAL!!!! The fact that some do not notice it concerns me for the wellbeing. It does not take a savvy individual to notice it. On a recent road trip with 200 miles on the car my girlfriend and I were both driven nuts by the jerking and vibration, not to mention the irritating sound when it runs on four cylinders. Why 3 cylinder operation doesn't cause the same problems I cannot tell you. What I can tell you is that I drove two other cars in the town that I went to visit and both did the same thing. This is not something that some do and some don't. Consider yourself warned. This car is the most fundamentally flawed and idiotic design that I have seen in 30 years of buying new cars. It is very hard to believe that Honda would knowingly do this, but I'm sure it boils down to getting something for CAFE standards being met or something that benefits Honda and not the consumer because there is no way on earth that they think people want this. DO NOT BUY THIS CAR OR YOU WILL BE MAD AT YOURSELF AND UNLESS YOU ARE RICH YOU WILL LOSE YOUR BEHIND ON IT!
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Re: 2008 Honda Accord [anthonyy] by robotaz2
Nov 03, 2008 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: anthonyy (Oct 13, 2008 12:47 pm)

Sounds like you are noticing the prominent vibration and humming that the car makes when it runs on four cylinders. It is not just your car. It's according to Honda "operating normally". I notice it around 45 mph also. You will also notice it when you get on the interstate and begin to go up a hill. As the grade increases it switches from 3 to 4 cylinders, that's where the irritating humming and vibrating kicks in. Unless the grade increases to the point that all 6 cylinders are activated, it will vibrate and moan all the way up the hill. Then when you go over the hill and it starts kicking down to fewer cylinders the torque converter locks/unlocks back and forth causing the car to surge, which many complain about.
 
My girlfriend wants to kill me now for buying this car. So in addition to automotive problems I can also thank Honda for domestic problems, not to mention the financial one caused by having to sell a brand new car. Lesson learned. Honda stinks.
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Re: [robotaz2] by thegraduate
Nov 03, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: robotaz2 (Nov 03, 2008 7:43 am)

It is very hard to believe that Honda would knowingly do this, but I'm sure it boils down to getting something for CAFE standards being met or something that benefits Honda and not the consumer because there is no way on earth that they think people want this.
 
Since all cars aren't saddled with the issue, its obvious to me that they did something right. It can be done and implemented beautifully. Some have issues, a sign that they have also done something wrong. The trouble is actually figuring out the component(s) causing the problem. It can't simply be by "chance" that the technology works in some cars and not in others; there must be a specific difference or set of differences.
 
I'm sorry your car is one with the troubles. All I can say is raise as much of a stink as you can with your dealer, as well as with Honda Corporate. Open a case with them. I'm sure someone will be happy to post the number of Honda's 1-800 number to call the corporate office.
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Re: 2008 Honda Accord [robotaz2] by monkey322
Nov 03, 2008 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: robotaz2 (Nov 03, 2008 7:50 am)

In my opinion it is far too complicated a system for mass production and that is what is happening - standard deviations from production tolerances are enough to cause vehicles to have these issues. Active engine mounts, anti noise cancellation in the radio system, an engine going from a V6 to a V4 to in line 3 is BOUND to have serious vibration issues which if any one, let alone more than one, of these "systems" designed to counter the engine issues, is not working properly, let alone half shaft and or tire imbalances in the front drive and steering wheels (this would probably not be so noticeable an issue if, as with GM cars so equipped, it was driving the rear wheels) you will have the unpleasant issues others here have reported. All I can say is hopefully some of you will experience what I read someone else did on this forum - their car sort of cured itself at about 3000 miles. I believe I recall reading that that owner too had had similar issues - surging, "hunting" etc. that all sort of smoothed out. The thinking there was, and it makes sense to me too, was that the active engine mounts "broke in" and began doing what they were supposed to do properly.
Here's hoping you all experience the same.

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