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Re: Honda Acoord 2008 vibration is noraml according to Honda Motor Company [jhinsc] by kegobass
Sep 23, 2008 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Sep 22, 2008 5:43 pm)

I did go with them. They said this is "normal operation" of the VCM and that all the V6's do that. They said I just need to get used to it because this is my first VCM car. Bahhhh. Whatever is right.
 
I understand the dealership needs to give the company line (There's nothing wrong with your vehicle) and it also may be true that not all V6's act this way. However, since I'm in a 36 month lease, I'm not going to be very satisfied with the car and probably be very bitter towards Honda for not doing anything to help me.
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Re: Honda Acoord 2008 vibration is noraml according to Honda Motor Company [thegraduate] by kegobass
Sep 23, 2008 (4:29 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 22, 2008 8:51 pm)

Put it this way, it's bad enough for me that when I drive the car, that I think about it constantly. My wife says she could live with it but she's not driving the car to work day in and day out.
 
I consider myself an enthusiast as most people on this forum probably do -otherwise why would you be on a car forum So you most likely expect more and are more critical than the average driver whose probably just cares how to get from point A to point B.
 
The dealership I bought the car from said he's had 12 or so people complain about the VCM once. They never complained again according to him. So, you might be right, that it's more of an annoyance than a critical issue for 99% of the people who drive them. However, what about the 1% who it drives up the wall?
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Re: Honda Acoord 2008 vibration is noraml according to Honda Motor Company [golfrski] by anthonyy
Sep 23, 2008 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: golfrski (Sep 22, 2008 10:44 am)

NO REAL QUESTION IS WOULD YOU PURCHASE THE HONDA ACCORD V6 IF THE DEALER DISCLOSE TO YOU WHEN YOU PURCHASE THE CAR THAT THE HONDA ACCORD V6 WILL VIBRATE WHEN YOU DROVE AT 58 TO 62 MILES PER HOUR?
OF COURSE NO ONE IN THE RIGHT MIND WOULD PURCHASE A NEW CAR WILL VIBRATE.
WE HAVE DRIVEN HONDA CAR FOR PAST 25 YEARS WE NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM. THIS IS REALLY A DISAPPOINTMENT; ESPECIALLY THE HONDA PEOPLE TRIED THEIR BEST TO LIE TO US.
THIS IS NOT A HINDA MOTOR CAR WHO MANAGED BY THE OLD MR. HIONDA AND FAMILY , NOW IT IS THE SAME AMERICAN SALESMEN MANAGES THIS CORPROATION
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Re: Honda Acoord 2008 vibration is noraml according to Honda Motor Company [anthonyy] by jhinsc
Sep 23, 2008 (6:13 am)
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Replying to: anthonyy (Sep 23, 2008 5:20 am)

Please - caps off.
 
If Kegobass statement about VCM being okay for 99% while 1% being annoyed by it, then Honda did their job. No company can please 100% of people 100% of the time. From Honda's perspective, if VCM is operating normally, what can they do to make the 1% happy? Certainly not give them their money back for buyer's remorse - which is what it appears to them. Can I feel the VCM working? Yes. Does it vibrate, shudder, jerk and shake like the few posters here state it does? NO. Believe me, I'm not trying to belittle all your experiences, but based on the some of the descriptions of VCM operation detailed in this forum, you would think the car is flying apart. Broken motor mounts, wheel/tires out of balance or out of round or some other mechanical problem could be the cause, but these are easily found and corrected. I hope you all find resolution for your troubles, but you may have to face the music and decide that the Accord is not for you, nothing more or less.
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Re: Honda Acoord 2008 vibration is noraml according to Honda Motor Company [jhinsc] by kegobass
Sep 23, 2008 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Sep 23, 2008 6:13 am)

I would agree with that statement Anthonyy. I don't feel that it's affecting the safety of my family or anything like that. However, even if I'm a one-off, I would expect that Honda take care of me and not dismiss the possibility that perhaps my car is having issues. It's very frustrating to go to the dealer time and time again to be told there's nothing wrong. I think you hit the nail on the head with your final sentence.
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Re: Honda Acoord 2008 vibration is noraml according to Honda Motor Company [jhinsc] by golfrski
Sep 23, 2008 (7:02 am)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Sep 23, 2008 6:13 am)

please direct us to any post since Oct 2007 that describes:
 
"descriptions of VCM operation detailed in this forum, you would think the car is flying apart. Broken motor mounts, wheel/tires out of balance or out of round or some other mechanical problem could be the cause, but these are easily found and corrected"
 
noone has ever described the VCM "shock", surge or shudder to that degree. or even the vibration. this is a simple issue from my experience and perspective.. its a poorly designed suspension compliment OR faulty design overall in how the motor mounts, ANC etc work in concert.. if a car shimmy's, vibrates its typically a bad tire, bad wheel.. if those two compenents are removed from the equation whats left axle and suspension. the fact that "most" drivers can "drive" out of the vibration accelerating to 80mph providing a normal smooth opertation tells me this is a suspension issue.. anyone have any constructive thoughts?
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Re: No Nav, No shimmy, No VCM issues [golfrski] by nj2pa2nc
Sep 23, 2008 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: golfrski (Sep 15, 2008 7:18 pm)

my mom owns a 08 accord v-6 without nav, bought 3/08. I have driven it numerous times-no problems with it.
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Re: Honda Acoord 2008 vibration is noraml according to Honda Motor Company [golfrski] by thegraduate
Sep 23, 2008 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: golfrski (Sep 22, 2008 9:16 pm)

Big Lawsuits (especially class-action) against a "reliable car-company" that are actually won would make business news.
 
Working for a news station, I've heard nothing about it, even on the AP wire.
 
Would love a link to something, by all means.
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Honda Acoord 2008 vibration is noraml according to Honda Motor Company [thegraduate] by elliott2
Sep 27, 2008 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 23, 2008 10:32 am)

By now it should be obvious to everyone that Honda has figured out that there is a design flaw with the Accord VCM (call it variable mis-firing). I've taken my 2008 Accord in numerous times for the vibration problem. During several of the first service calls the service manager and mechanic test drove the car with me and commented that the vibration in the car would drive them crazy on the highway. During the last service visit, the repair order actually stated that the vibration in ECO mode is a normal characteristic of this model. Please note that there is no such warning in any of the marketing materials provided by the company.
 
Given that everyone is now receiving the same response from their service dept, it's clear that Honda has directed the service departments to state that it is a "normal characteristic" of the model.
 
To anyone who is considering buying or leasing a V6 Accord with VCM, please seriously consider shopping around for another car until Honda gets its act togther on the newly designed Accord and stops with the subterfuge. For those of you who have an older Accord and are thinking of trading up to a 2008 or 2009, consider yourself warned that this is not the same quality of car that you were accustomed to in the past. (I'm not sure it's the same company; Honda owned up to problems in the past and did not mislead customers as they are now.)
 
In addition to the vibration from the variable mis-firing of the engine, there is considerable road noise on the highway and on rough payment so much so that it can be challenging to hear the radio at times.
 
If you do decide to get a new Accord, please take it for an extended road test without the salesman so that you can actually pay attention to the car's driving characteristics. See also Edmund's long term test of the 2008 Accord.
 
In hindsight, I would not have purchased a car that was intentionally designed to mis-fire at certain speeds coupled with a systems that creates noise so that the driver doesn't hear (or is distracted from the sound) of the engine mis-firing along with computer controlled engine mounts designed to re-direct the vibration from the mis-firing.
 
At the moment, there are a lot better cars for the price to put up with a car that is annoying to drive.
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Re: Honda Acoord 2008 vibration is noraml according to Honda Motor Company [elliott2] by ncjim
Sep 27, 2008 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: elliott2 (Sep 27, 2008 11:50 am)

Agree 100% with this post. I noticed that the new Pilot commercials are touting the VCM...something about 3-cylinder mode, etc. Wasn't paying much attention to the ad at the time and have not seen it since. I will lay claim to preventing a friend from buying a V6 Accord within the last week, my very small contribution to trying to make Honda hurt.
 
Honda needs to take a lesson from Johnson & Johnson when the Tylenol scare erupted in the 70s or 80s: fess up immediately, make it right, and continue to thrive. In the absence of Honda doing this, I'm one of those bigmouths who will make sure that not just 10, but 100, of my friends are aware of Honda's disdain for consumers who have gotten stuck with this vehicle.

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