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Re: More VCM complaints found... [golfrski] by rockdoctor1
Nov 16, 2007 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: golfrski (Nov 16, 2007 6:58 am)

I have the Coupe VCM with 4200 miles and on say a few occasions have thought I felt any surge hesitation you are talking about. I have found a very happy path with the VCM I've found. Perhaps you could try it to see if it acts up, and if it does, be specific in your description and maybe we can help. I know a little about steady-state dynamics, vibration, harmonics, etc...
 
Try acellerating 0-45 mph, then drop off the gas enough to engage VCM. Now slowly build speed to 75 mph without letting the VCM drop off. My coupe has a very nimble ride getting to the high end of a power band. The engine feels ready to do anything you want, very responsive. No signs of the annoyance you seem to be running into. It made me wonder if 18" wheels might be the difference.
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Re: More VCM complaints found... [golfrski] by dreamcar5
Nov 17, 2007 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: golfrski (Nov 16, 2007 6:58 am)

golfrski,
 
I would really appreciate if you can keep all of us posted.
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Re: More VCM complaints found... [dreamcar5] by golfrski
Nov 17, 2007 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: dreamcar5 (Nov 17, 2007 7:00 pm)

Will do Dreamcar5.
 
I have really been testing this car a ton and notice some interesting things. i.e. at cruising speed say 65-75 the road noise (as about every new owner has stated) is loud. I mean very loud. what is interesting as well is the car in V6 format has both Active Motor Mounts to reduce or eliminate 3 cyl vibration as well as ANC (Active Noise Cancel) I can honestly say that my accord as well as the other 5 I have demo'd or tested, still vibrates noticeably and has a low -frequency engine operation of which the ANC is supposed to eliminate with out of wave low freq sound waves. I am sure its better than w/o,but certainly doesnt "eliminate" the low freq ear drum attacking noise. You can almost hear a shutter like a bad tire or as if you opened a rear window only to get that annoying ear drum thudder everyone scrambles on to open a 2 nd window and neutralize the air pressure in the cabin. The VCM remains very noticable and combined with the road noise/slight vibration from the 3cyl action it all piles on to be a somewhat non-smooth long trip ride.
 
I read the expert reviews and it boggles my mind that they are written in such a slanted manner. Look, I like the car and made the investment and am trying to learn to love it.. the styling is awesome, the features are out of the park, but the ride(seats) are VERY firm/stiff, the VCM is annoying and the road noise is less than desireable. but again I will end this post as I have many others.. check the net (other forums, blogs etc) you will find my "PRO's" and "CON's" consistent with other new 08 accord V6 owners, not all, but others. I will continue to update the audience on my experiences, steps to address and any resolutions.
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Re: More VCM complaints found... [golfrski] by holew
Nov 18, 2007 (12:29 am)
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Replying to: golfrski (Nov 17, 2007 7:34 pm)

Have you tested the 4 cyl Accord? If so did that vehicle have road noise and vibrations similar to the V6?
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Re: To The Contrary... [golfrski] by holew
Nov 18, 2007 (12:36 am)
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Replying to: golfrski (Nov 09, 2007 11:06 am)

I hope they don't remove the ECO light. I would like to know when I am running on 4 or 3 cylinders so that I might be able to adjust my driving style to take advamtage of trying to run on 4 or 3 cylinders as much as possible. If I can adjust my driving style to utilize the fewest cylinders more frequently I would like to know.
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Re: More VCM complaints found... [golfrski] by blackexv6
Nov 18, 2007 (4:07 am)
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Replying to: golfrski (Nov 17, 2007 7:34 pm)

I have an '08 EXL-4cyl and agree these cars are very noisy on the highway. The ANC system does little to mask the road noise or rumble. Some people on other forums are blaming the tires again but I my experience owning a noisy '03 Accord proves different. When I replaced the OEM Michelins with Toyo Proxes I couldn't detect any improvement.
 
Golfrski, like you my opinion was swayed by the reviews telling how quiet the car is. Are we crazy or is the road noise issue a real problem for the Accord again?
 
When I first bought the car I thought the suspension was tuned perfectly for road shock, however, 1k miles later & I find myself again (like the '03) looking for cracks & potholes in the road to avoid (instead of watching traffic).
 
I have a real dilemma again Honda....you nailed the styling, features, price, etc but failed miserably with the road noise again.
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Re: More VCM complaints found... [holew] by sr1945
Nov 18, 2007 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: holew (Nov 18, 2007 12:29 am)

For my 08 4 cyl EX Nav Automatic, I do get road noise, but not as much as I do with my 07 civic EX automatic. No vibration notice with the 4 cyl either. Most road noise of course comes from highway driving and I think a tire change may help a bit, but not sure by how much. Agree with other posters that Honda should step up and give better insulation for a nice car as the Accord is.
 
Really like the Nav system and is better than the Nav on my Civic 07.
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Re: More VCM complaints found... [holew] by golfrski
Nov 18, 2007 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: holew (Nov 18, 2007 12:29 am)

In fact I have as a result of a PLAN B approach. I did not find the road noise at cruising speeds to be as objectionable. The 4 cyl of course drives MUCH diff, there is no comparison in power feel of course 190hp vs 268 but my thought about the 3cyl shutter noise comes from comparing to the 4cyl not having the same low freq vibrations..
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Re: To The Contrary... [holew] by golfrski
Nov 18, 2007 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: holew (Nov 18, 2007 12:36 am)

Here is my opinion on this... and by no means do I feel like I am the resident-accord-brainiac however, I have owned 6 of them and like to think I get it. I really cant recall ANY major concerns with Honda in 20 years as a customer until now.
 
ECO-Light... why why why why?? I dont need to know. I dont care. Make it invisible and transparent to me as the driver and let me see the diff in pocket book, the ECO light is a novelty gimmick. If it were REALLY meant to help the driver understand how "Green" he/she was then tell me the cyl mode I'm in 6-4-3. Otherwise get rid of the dummy light that only draws attention to the fact that "something" is happening to my car as I drive down the road. Look,, everyone know that the average driver see's a dummy light come on/pop up "check engine" or the like and that means problem. I stick with my prediction that Honda will remove this light.. watch you'll see. It s a placebo in the purest form,
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Re: More VCM complaints found... [blackexv6] by golfrski
Nov 18, 2007 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: blackexv6 (Nov 18, 2007 4:07 am)

The current ANC feature (while it may reduce whats there), does not "eliminate the 3 cyl operation noise. There are many interesting points of the advertisements about this car. ANC, VCM. Active Motor Mounts, Comfort. Dont get me wrong. I like the car in general but need to point out the professional reviewer and Honda's not so clear marketing based on my personal experience and those of many forum posters across the net today.

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