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Re: Honda VCM [robertsmx] by viet
Nov 11, 2007 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 08, 2007 9:46 am)

Thanks a lot Honda/ Acura King Robertsmx for your super clear explanation of the VCM.
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My particular EX-L V6 Gets Thumbs Up by dpmeersman
Nov 12, 2007 (3:40 am)
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I had a friend drive my new Accord this weekend to see what he thought about the car as a whole and to pay particular attention to the VCM activity. He read some of the posts here at my urging, so he was aware of what others perceive as a problem. He's owned Accords and Preludes and is very mechanically inclined and a very spirited and opininated driver. He wouldn't sugar coat his impression. We did about 25 miles of mixed interstate and twisty back roads. He could feel the VCM doing its thing but never found it objectionable. He's driven his boss's BMW (can't remember if it was a 5 or a 7 series) on several occasions and felt the Accord came close to matching the Bimmer's handling characteristics, at least as close as you can get by a car that's pulling itself, not pushing. We did everything from relaxed highway cruising to 0-60 runs and assertive stopping and overall the car was up to anything he threw at it. His final verdict on the VCM as implemented in my car was that it was less noticeable then anything the transmission was doing and at times not noticeable at all. Now that I have the keys back in my possession it will be some time before I let him drive my car again as what he calls every day driving, I call beating on a car. He assures me that being a Honda, it was meant to be driven aggressively, and he has proven that with over 200,000 miles on his 1990 Prelude with countless trips the redline, so I guess he would know.
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Re: My particular EX-L V6 Gets Thumbs Up [dpmeersman] by golfrski
Nov 12, 2007 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: dpmeersman (Nov 12, 2007 3:40 am)

Well this is certainly encouraging. However is still not in-line with how the car is being marketed or presented. I have the dealer checking the active motor mounts to ensure they are a-ok. Once a potential issue there is ruled out then we will decide next steps. I drove about 4 hours yesterday all interstate and still noticed in CC the engine operates pretty normal. The only notoicable adjustment felt seem to be transmission changes. So again, the car can optimize on its own but is hyper-sensitive when manfully driven via the accelerator. I am starting to think its the "drive-by-wire" config and lack of mechanically linkage to the throttle perhaps...... we'll see.
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Re: My particular EX-L V6 Gets Thumbs Up [golfrski] by thegraduate
Nov 12, 2007 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: golfrski (Nov 12, 2007 9:14 am)

I am starting to think its the "drive-by-wire" config and lack of mechanically linkage to the throttle perhaps...... we'll see.
 
I doubt its the DBW. I have DBW in my previous gen Accord and love its smoothness and crisp throttle response. Never had one complaint about it. In fact, I've not seen one complaint about DBW from Honda (Toyota is a different story) and it has been equipped on Honda vehicles for years now.
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Re: My particular EX-L V6 Gets Thumbs Up [thegraduate] by robertsmx
Nov 12, 2007 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 12, 2007 9:23 am)

it has been equipped on Honda vehicles for years now
 
Yep. And I believe since 1995, at the time in a car called NSX.
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Re: My particular EX-L V6 Gets Thumbs Up [dpmeersman] by viet
Nov 12, 2007 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: dpmeersman (Nov 12, 2007 3:40 am)

Thanks Dpmeersman, for your friend 's rigorous tests on VCM in different driving conditions. I will not hesistate a bit to go forward with my purchase.
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Re: My particular EX-L V6 Gets Thumbs Up [viet] by golfrski
Nov 12, 2007 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: viet (Oct 26, 2007 10:25 am)

I would suggest you do your own due diligence. Dont take just mine or one persons "road tests" as the gospel. While I have outlined the issues I have seen with the VCM operations and have validated these with Honda Reps and Service Managers, just drive the heck out of a demo V6 and experience for yourself. It is clearly becoming a concern amongst "some" new owners in several forums like Drive Accord, ToV etc..
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Re: My particular EX-L V6 Gets Thumbs Up [golfrski] by golfrski
Nov 15, 2007 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: golfrski (Nov 12, 2007 12:50 pm)

Balancing of 2 tires at least minimized the vibration issues,,, but not the VCM issues.. Honda is still looking into the issue.
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More VCM complaints found... by golfrski
Nov 16, 2007 (6:58 am)
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Escalated my issue to Honda America..
  
Another user review from Yahoo Auto's:
  
great car when running on six cylinders!
by Steven from Columbus, Ohio (11/15/07)
  
Pros: exterior, handling, seats, XM radio, Michlin tires, dual exhaust tips, all good
Cons: Variable Cylinder Management System surges all the time on the freeway and ride is firmer than my 03
  
This is a great car when it is running on all six cylinders! I feel the Variable Cylinder Management System surging and hesitating all the time on the freeway, it is very annoying. I have an appointment with Honda Dealer Service Department, hopefully this is a warranty adjustment. At this point I wish I would have purchased a 2007 Accord V6 EX-L.

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