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#5 of 13 Re: Cobalt SS Supercharged Stage 2 w/Cat Back Performance Exhausts [catback]
Oct 31, 2007 (6:02 pm)
i would agree completely. from the dig this car is handicapped. the torque seems to come on between 3500 and 4000 rpm with a top speed in 1st gear of oh well not across the street. but when 2nd gear starts to dance it's a whole other thing. i have been getting 28 to 29 mpg on my car since about 5000 miles. it didn't do as well at first. check my blog for more on my up grade experience. and i don't say much about it but i have out ran some v8 cars on the hiway. i still have to get my wife to run me with her z28. my fear is that if i win she buy something faster. haha
#6 of 13 Re: Cobalt SS Supercharged Stage 2 w/Cat Back Performance Exhausts [okko1]
Nov 01, 2007 (7:49 am)
A friend at Maaco-Mountain View, CA located on San Antonio street mentioned that he thought the only thing it needed was a racing transmission. Of course, there goes the warranty if it's anything more than a Stage 2 and Cat Back exhausts. The original version indeed was very quick downshifting to 2nd below speeds of 55 mph and punching it, faster than anything I ran into. Going 65 mph you could also downshift into 3rd and get something out of it, but nothing like the Stage 2 which would blow the doors off the original because of the increased torque and hp through all 5 gears. I got the impression it was somewhat of a half-hearted effort by Chevy to release something competitive with Honda Civic SI and Mitsubishi Lancers, but the specs are the old 200+ hp 4 cylinder specs that were current until this year. Now everything (aka Sun and Solstice) seems to be at 260 hp, the new rating of the Stage 2. Of course, Chevy under rates their horses and always has (remember those 1990 RS's that had the old 300+ cu inch Z28 engine? 270 HP? No, a lot more than that for those of us who had one), so I'd really rate the Stage 2 at 330 hp with the power ot weight ratio, of course any car rated at 260 hp bench would be over 300 if it were under or close to 3,000 pounds.
So, I agree with your point completely but you really had to downshift to get to horses in the original and the Stage 2 allows you to downshift into 3rd on the highway and take pretty much everything except the Shelby, Viper, and Corvettes out there. Of course, so can any built Honda or Mitsubishi Lancer with headers and souped up engines, being lighter cars.
This really is a great hobby - too bad Chevy didn't Stage 2 the car. Oh yes, be sure to custom paint your Stage 2 at a Maaco - ask them for a 2 coat and shelby racing stripes (go to Yahoo autos and click into pictures - the Shelby and Viper have the racing stripes that bleed off of the bottom of the bumpers to the ground). I had my red Stage 2 painted with 2 coats and then a black thick stripe with a red pin stripe left in the middle, just like the Shelby and Viper. EXCEPT, whoever designed their stripes made them too skinny and they look somewhat rinky dink for such a fast car. I had Maaco stretch that sucker into a very wide stripe that offset by 3/4 inch from the front ram air grill openings, producing a very wide stripe that looks incredible - I'm sure I piss off any Shelby or Viper that has to look at it, seeing the effect - it's a throwback to the Chevelle 396 SS's with that fat stripe with the pin stripe in the center from the late 60's and early 70's muscle car days, except bleeding off the bottom of the bumper.
Lastly, be sure to go to the internet and find a sign shop in your area that also does car racing decals, and use a brush font for "Stage 2" for both sides, mounted just behind the SS emblems, and also look on the internet for Chevy racing decals with flames and SS and mount one of those burning SS emblems with "Cat Back" decals right under them. On the hood, have huge letters like the Dodge Charger italicized leaning forward that say, "Supercharged SS Stage 2" and line it up on either side of the pinstripe.
Anyway, make sure people know you're real as a Stage 2 or you'll be forever proving it into you put you're car in the shop! As I said, Chevy should have put more muscle behind the Stage 2 version, it would have sold at $28,000 easily with the shelby striping and decals, but doing it yourself still looks factory. I'll see if I can figure out how to load a picture of how I customized my car with the Stage 2 rally package created by a past Chevy racing team person in Sunnvale who works at "Sign-O-Rama". ">
#8 of 13 Re: Cobalt SS Supercharged Stage 2 w/Cat Back Performance Exhausts [catback]
Nov 01, 2007 (8:32 am)
At the top, click on Photos and then catback's Album. I also posted a quick note with directions to the photos - Maaco will do this for around $2,000 as long as you stick with the same color and use a black stripe, which of course looks the very best, accenting the grill openings on the front of the car. Be sure to make them Phat stripes - those viper and shelby stripes are the right idea but their heads rotate when they see the effect of making them phat. It creates a monster front grille opening and gives heart attacks from the rear end view! Chevy should have done this!!!
#9 of 13 Re: Cobalt SS Supercharged Stage 2 w/Cat Back Performance Exhausts [catback]
Jan 08, 2008 (11:08 pm)
You can't claim a car has more hp because it is lighter. You can only make a hp claim if a car has been put on a dyno and remember, hp sells cars, but torque wins races. That is why the car feels like it does out of the hole.
This is a nice little machine and nice upgrade from chevy, but if chevy claims 260 hp, it is not 330 hp....not in anyones book even if it might be slightly under rated. I have personnally seen these dynoed with this upgrade and they run around 240 rwhp (that is hp at the wheels and the only way anyone should ever discuss hp).
Stock Cobalt SS' run the quarter mile mid to upper 14's and the Stage 2's get there in low 14's. BUT, they trap at around 105 mph. Compare this to a new Mustang which runs mid 13's at 104 mph or a 1999 - 2004 Mustang which runs mid to low 14's and traps at 98-99 mph. The Cobalt has a great trap, or is lousy getting out of the hole...depending how you look at it. In real world driving, this means that while it may feel like an econo-box from stoplight to stoplight, it it at it's best from a roll and may catch a few folks off-guard from 40 or 60 mph.
It will be interesting to see what Chevy replaces this car with in 2009. The Cobalt SS was a nice addition in a very competitive compact market.
#11 of 13 Photos 06 SS Supercharged Stage 2 Cobalt
Nov 01, 2007 (8:36 am)
Go to Photos, then catback's album, and check out what Maaco will do for your SS Supercharged Stage 2 Cobalt - $2,000 for Viper/Shelby stripes - make them Phat, those two didn't and they have a heart attack when they see your rear end or front with the effect bleeding the stripes off the bottom of the bumper have - they create a monster grille!
Only catch is you have to stick with your car's color for a two-coat and use a black stripe, but then again, try topping a black racing stripe, so it works!!!
Chevy would have sold through the roof with all of the compact muscle car enthusiasts (Honda, Lancer, etc.)!!!
#12 of 13 Your stripes
Jan 08, 2008 (10:54 pm)
While I think this thing is missing a few cyclinders, I like they way these things look and I wanted to compliment the stripes. I love sports cars with stripes. However, if it we me, I would have left the wording off the hood and definately the chevy logo on the windshield. I think it takes away from an otherwise, super-clean look.
#13 of 13 Dealer installed accessories
Apr 26, 2008 (6:04 am)
I saw this on the Chevrolet site and thought it was a nice option for potential Cobalt buyers. I know they have a special Cobalt catalog for high performance parts available at their parts department, but I could see going with a couple of these dealer installed options before delivery.