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Ford Edge SYNC Bluetooth SiriusXM Audio Questions

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#25 of 116 Re: Sync Works. [jeyhoe] by mschmal

Nov 06, 2007 (4:16 pm)

Replying to: jeyhoe (Nov 03, 2007 2:26 pm)
This post is a perfect example of someone making up things and pushing them off as facts. Perhaps you should work for Fox News.
 
1. OnStar is not and never was a "satelite communications" system. Its a cell phone built into the car. As GMs cell network provider switches to all digital, customers with the older OnStar analog only system will be left in the cold. And the new OnStar system will only work where there is digital coverage.
 
FACT: Sync will work where ever your Bluetooth compatible phone works. That includes Canada, Mexico, etc.
 
2. Back-up Cameras? you obviouly have not driven a 2008 Ford F-150, Super Duty, Expedition, or Lincoln Mark LT or Navigator.
 
3. Hybrid and High Milage vehicles? GMs "Mild Hybrid" system is a joke. The 08 Chevy Malibu Hybrid is rated at 24 City and 32 Hwy. Whats the Point? Ford Fusion 4 cylinder is 20 city, 28 hwy. You are talking an annual cost difference of $272.00. Malibu Hybrid TMV is $22,720. Ford Fusion SE has a TMV of $19,426.00. Thats a Difference of $3,300! You'll have to drive that Malibu 12 years!!!! to make that money back in fuel economy savings.
 
3. Sync is standard on top trim levels and optional for under $400.
 

 
Mark

#27 of 116 Re: Sync Works. [mschmal] by sjohnson11

Nov 12, 2007 (1:56 pm)

Replying to: mschmal (Nov 06, 2007 4:16 pm)
Hey Mark, do you know if Lincoln is going to offer xenon headlamps on the MKX? Thanks
steve

#28 of 116 Re: Sync Works. [mschmal] by jeyhoe

Nov 12, 2007 (3:53 pm)

Replying to: mschmal (Nov 06, 2007 4:16 pm)
"This post is a perfect example of someone making up things and pushing them off as facts. Perhaps you should work for Fox News."
 
Oh, they took my response to this off, saying I broke the rules by dissing the writer of this. Hmmm, I thought they had taken his off as well, since the above statement clearly calls me a liar. But I guess I, like Fox News, am fair game.
 
Well, hopefully I'll be more diplomatic this time, and I will start by merely saying with all due respect that mschmal doesn't know what he's talking about when he says:
 
"1. OnStar is not and never was a "satelite communications" system. Its a cell phone built into the car. As GMs cell network provider switches to all digital, customers with the older OnStar analog only system will be left in the cold. And the new OnStar system will only work where there is digital coverage."
 
OnStar most certainly is a satellite communications system as one can readily verify merely by going to wikipedia or 'Ask'ing about OnStar (I dont do Google)
 
As for what sync works with, several messages on here will vouch that it doesnt seem to work at all with some of the advertised phones and some folks have been told to buy new phones to work with sync. Good luck with that.
 
As for backup cameras, mscmal says:
 
"2. Back-up Cameras? you obviouly have not driven a 2008 Ford F-150, Super Duty, Expedition, or Lincoln Mark LT or Navigator."
 
And he's right, I haven't driven either of these 2 vehicles, which are really basically only 1 vehicle, but why quibble? My point was that Ford is way behind everyone else in using back-up cameras and this post helps make my point. Many lesser priced cars, including the Toyota Prius and Highlander, have B/U cameras and the Highlander in fact it is standard equipment.
 
Mschmal goes on:
"3. Hybrid and High Milage vehicles? GMs "Mild Hybrid" system is a joke. The 08 Chevy Malibu Hybrid is rated at 24 City and 32 Hwy. Whats the Point? Ford Fusion 4 cylinder is 20 city, 28 hwy. You are talking an annual cost difference of $272.00. Malibu Hybrid TMV is $22,720. Ford Fusion SE has a TMV of $19,426.00. Thats a Difference of $3,300! You'll have to drive that Malibu 12 years!!!! to make that money back in fuel economy savings"
 
Laughable. GMs system is a "joke"? Really? 20% increase in gas mileage is a joke? I dont think so. Especially with gas about to cross $4.00/gallon where I live. Ford has ONE vehicle with hybrid tech. Billy Ford promised oodles of hybrids. That is pretty far behind the curve of the rest. Ford will still be selling 12/16 mpg rated Expys in the fall while GM will have it's 22/22 or thereabouts hybrid Tahoe. Excuse me, but 22mpg city in a Tahoe is just what the Dr ordered for a huge number of soccer moms etc. I think predicting big success for the Tahoe, assuming they can make enough of them, would be a pretty good bet.
 
Finally he says, without counting:
"3 (sic). Sync is standard on top trim levels and optional for under $400. "
 
This is supposd to rebut my mentioning that it costs $750 to get sync in an Edge. HAHAHAHA I see, so IF you pay an extra several $1000 to get the top trim, then sync is std? Great. How does that change the fact however that sync costs $350 and requires the convenience package which is $395? (or vice-versa)
 
Now who's making stuff up? Me and Fox or mscmal and Dan Rather?
 
Finally, IMHO, sync may bring a lot of young folks to Ford but I think it's going to be a maintenance and CR nightmare for a year or two. But I'm probably just making that up.

#29 of 116 Re: Sync Works. [jeyhoe] by tidester

Nov 12, 2007 (10:46 pm)

Replying to: jeyhoe (Nov 12, 2007 3:53 pm)
But I guess I, like Fox News, am fair game.
 
I think we'd better stay out of the cable channel wars before folks like Keith Olberman and John Gibson jump into the fray!
 
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper

#30 of 116 Facts speak for themselves. by mschmal

Nov 13, 2007 (11:49 am)

I apologize for that cheap shot. I was trying to be funny. Thats probably why I don't try to make my living as a commedian.
 
1. OnStar DOES NOT use any satellites for communication. Here is GM's page http://www.gm.com/explore/education/9-12/technology/onstar_gps.html.
 
2. I was refering to the Mild Hybrid system used in the Malibu and Saturn "green line" vehicles. The Tahoe and its brothern will be using a totally different "two mode" system. As for whether this will be a success or not, we still don't have prices or fuel economy figures.
 
If you have to pay more to buy the hybrid then you'll ever save through fuel economy in the time you own the car then IMHO the all you are getting is HYPE!
 
Mark

#31 of 116 High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps by mschmal

Nov 13, 2007 (11:57 am)

MKX offers Adaptive steering headlamps in the Ultimate Pkg.
 
Right now HIDs do not appear to be in the future.
 
Mark

#32 of 116 Re: Facts speak for themselves. [mschmal] by jeyhoe

Nov 13, 2007 (4:22 pm)

Replying to: mschmal (Nov 13, 2007 11:49 am)
"I apologize for that cheap shot. I was trying to be funny. Thats probably why I don't try to make my living as a commedian."
 
OK, cool. Bill Maher should've been something else too.
 
OnStar communications is by cell phone. GPS operations of course is satellite.
 
Certainly the cost of hybrids over non has to be factored. I tried to justify turning my Lincoln LS (22mpg) into a Prius (45mpg?) and found it would be close to 10 years til I made up the diff in cost. That was a good answer for me

#33 of 116 Re: Facts speak for themselves. [mschmal] by baggs32

Nov 13, 2007 (8:53 pm)

Replying to: mschmal (Nov 13, 2007 11:49 am)
If you have to pay more to buy the hybrid then you'll ever save through fuel economy in the time you own the car then IMHO the all you are getting is HYPE!
 
Read the last sentence of this review. If C&D is right about the price then these GM beasts are HYPE X 2!!!

#34 of 116 Re: Facts speak for themselves. [baggs32] by jeyhoe

Nov 14, 2007 (10:19 am)

Replying to: baggs32 (Nov 13, 2007 8:53 pm)
Yeah, 50% better gas mileage than a non-hybrid Tahoe. That's hype all right.

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