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Mercedes-Benz 450-Class, Classic Cars, Convertible
#1 of 300 VIN check
Oct 25, 2007 (6:40 pm)
My neighbor bought a 78' MB SL450. He would like to know if there is a site where he can find out the history of the vehicle by using the VIN, which has only 12 digits.
CARFAX is no good, since it will not accept anything less than 17 digits.
Any help would be appreciated.
#2 of 300 Re: VIN check [guzzel]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Oct 26, 2007 (5:48 am)
No such thing for that car, it is too old. You can probably write to the Mercedes factory in Stuttgart to see how the car originally came equipped and perhaps where it was shipped.
People who want to know the actual history of older cars have to trace them from previous owner to previous owner.
Sometimes, a club dedicated to a certain type of car will have a "registry", wherein club members list their VINs and known history and then the club keeps a record (usually private for club members) of each VIN.
If your state keeps the same license plate on the car from owner to owner, that's another lead, but the DMV will not give out that information to the public. You'd have to have a friend in the police force, etc.
CARFAX and other services only use public records anyway, and all they tell you is how many owners and in what state (but not their names or addresses) and the mileage at which each change in ownership occurred. Also they'd tell you if the car had a salvage title at one time.
But for a car like this, such information isn't all that useful, IMO, since mileage and salvage wouldn't affect value very much if at all at this point.
Other than curiosity, what's your neighbor trying to get at here?
#3 of 300 Re: VIN check [Mr_Shiftright]
Oct 26, 2007 (11:11 am)
Thanks for the quick reply. I think he wants the info that a CARFAX report would provide, no necessarily who the actual owners were.
I did find the breakdown of the 12 digit VIN, but not too much info there. Position 1-6 is the chassis number; Position 7 is either 1=LH drive, or 2=RH drive; Position 8 is 0=Stnd trans, 1=Hydraulic clutch, 2=auto trans; and finally Position 9-14 is Construction serial number.
I'll print out your reply and take it over to him. Thanks again!
#4 of 300 Re: VIN check [guzzel]
Oct 26, 2007 (11:13 am)
I mistyped; the VIN on his car is NOT 12 digits, but 14.
#5 of 300 Re: VIN check [guzzel]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Oct 26, 2007 (2:45 pm)
Okay I see.
Perhaps if he could find out where the car was first sold (which dealer) or which repair shop worked on it, he could gather up bits snd pieces of information from repair orders.
but you know, usually with a 30 year old car, what you see is what you get. Sometimes the car itself can tell you all you need to know.
#6 of 300 Re: VIN check [Mr_Shiftright]
Oct 26, 2007 (5:06 pm)
Yes, his energy might be better spent finding a reliable mechanic that can go over it and give him the list of things to do...
#7 of 300 Re: VIN check [Mr_Shiftright]
Oct 26, 2007 (6:10 pm)
True, many times you can just see that a car has been through rough times. Although this one is in very nice condition. All original on the inside, no rips or tears in the seats. The only thing he told me that needed repair was the cruise control. He said when he engages the cruise, it works fine for a few miles, then suddenly turns off. Not sure what the problem is.
I didn't ask him how much he paid for it (none of my business), and he didn't offer the info. So don't know if he got a good deal or not.
Anyway, thanks for all the input.
#8 of 300 help me find my dads 1965 gto convertable
Jan 03, 2008 (7:57 pm)
Around April 1971 my dads 1965 gto was stolen from a bowling alley parking lot.He had left it there because of a flat tire.It was the only car we owned at the time.He lost a job over this and my mother was expecting in june .The reason why I am trying to find the car now , I found the registration while cleaning out old marine duffle bags.My dad was in the marines when he purchased the car.The GTO was taken from the Mckeesport/norwin PA area.The vin # is 237675p356264 title # F17387918 registration # 17794K.The color of the GTO was night watch blue with white interior.It had a 4sp but the orginal 389 was replaced with a 350 4barrel out of a 1970 pontiac.It also had aftermaket chrome reverse rims.The rod bearings went bad in the 389.I'm not looking to get it back,But it would be nice to find out if it ever survived or maybe buy it back.Thank you for any help,Scott Elkins
#9 of 300 Re: help me find my dads 1965 gto convertable [scotthe]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 03, 2008 (8:29 pm)
Actually if you filled out a police report as a stolen vehicle, you probably could get it back, if they ever found it.
You might check the GTO Registry on Google. They often keep track of cars by VIN #. Of course, probably 90% of all '65 GTOs are junked by now, but you never know.
#10 of 300 Right Descision- Getting a 1979 450Sl or just trouble?
Mar 01, 2008 (7:59 pm)
HI! I have own a few antique over the years but they were all american made. (Cheap to replace especially if you di it yourself. Saw this light cream yellow (Light Ivory) 450SL that appears to be in EC. It has 157K miles on it. No rust on top or underneath, but slight bubbling near the right headlight. Interior had been replace an is in EC, except for 2 hair line crack in the dash. All electrical & gauges work. Heat works, the servo & many suspension parts replaced. Recent tune up etc. New tires & 15" 560 rims. Runs/drives and handles like a dream. A/C does not work, but I don't really care. 10 CD changer & the power antena works. Even the clock works. Soft top looks to be brand new as well. Brakes & rotors very recent, and I had this car checked an a import repair shop. Not even a ding in the body. I paid $5,400 not counting taxes etc.
Here's my question. After reading some of the post it seems that once these engines go, you just junk the car because they cost $6,000 to $8,000 to replace. Even though the car seems great I fear I made a bad choice. I was also going to sell my 60 Tbird to offset the cost for this car and have a little chabge left over. Now, I feel I might have may a mistake. I was told these engines had a long life. ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS WILL BE REALLY APPRECIATED. AM I JUST FEELING BUYERS REMORSE OR DID I INVEST ON THE WRONG CAR???? I am just using it for pleasure drives & car shows?