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Replying to: tpapaxhelp (Aug 09, 2008 12:50 pm) |
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http://www.diyhonda.com/2008/08/podcast-episode-133-viewer-questions.html Lots of viewer questions but this one has lots of valuable info on the depax kit. HD is only recommended if you have a powerful computer with a decent amount of ram. They have a lower quality version for those with not as good computers and if you want it to take less space. |
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| You can get the stuff at your local dealers. All you need is the spare and the mounting kit, 20 all new lugnuts, TPMS sensors, and possibly new centercaps. EX wheels can be used as well. 07 owners will have to use 07 and up EX wheels due to the lugnuts. The 20 lugnuts are if you want to use 08 non PAX touring wheels or 07- MDX wheels. PAX centercaps can be used and they can enhance the look of the wheels. If you want you can get new ones from Honda. You don't have to get this at collegehillshonda. If you prefer getting it done locally then just go to your local dealer. Hope this helps. | |
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Replying to: mtmsimple (Jul 31, 2008 3:50 am) |
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Hi Everyone, We bought a 2005 Odyssey Touring model brand new in June 2005. Within the first week, we had problems with the car pulling to the right and a shimmy in the steering between 60-65 mph. The dealer rebalanced the front wheels and did an alignment. The shimmy was better but not completely gone. The pulling was still there. We took it back several more times for these problems and they rotated the tires from front to rear. The shimmy was almost completely gone and the pulling was less noticeable but still there. Around the 20K miles mark, the shimmy got worse and it still pulled so we took it back. They said that the tires were in need of replacement and that 2 new tires would be $800 installed. I told them that we rotated the tires every 5000 miles and that they should be covered by the warranty. It was wasted breath on my part. They said it was not covered. I looked at the tires and they were only worn on the outer edges. We decided to keep them and just deal with the shimmy and the pulling and try to get some more mileage from them. I then looked on the internet and found that many others were having similar issues and that there is a class action suit against Honda and Michelin for these Pax systems. I also found that many people have replaced the pax wheels with regular wheels and tires. I prepared to do this too. In the spring, I started shopping for wheels. I was told that many of the Honda and Acura wheels can be used as a replacement. I didn't want to use the Odyssey EX wheels as everyone has them and they are only 16" wheels and they were bringing alot of money on eBay when they showed up as the demand for them was high. Someone had posted on another forum that the 2005-2007 Acura RL wheels worked for them so I started looking for a set. In May, I located a set on ebay in good shape for $300 including shipping. They sat in my garage until today. I called my local tire shop last Friday and I asked the owner what he knew about the problem. He told me that he has dome several Pax replacements with other wheels and tires. He said he can reuse my TPMS sensors. I asked him if he had the machine to unmount the Pax tires and he said no. He told me that they just cut a flap into the sidewall of the old pax tire near the tire valve and remove the sensor through the hole they created. I asked him to order me a set of tires and he told me to bring the car in Today. So with 41,300 miles on the Pax tires and an upcoming road trip planned, I went to my local tire shop and purchased a set of Michelin tires from them. Here is what they did to do the install. They pulled the pax wheels off the car and let the air out of the tires. Then they cut a section out of the sidewall using a utility knife. They removed the sensors and installed them onto my Acura RL wheels. Then they mounted the new tires as with any normal wheel and balanced them and installed them back onto my Van. The Honda center caps from my Pax wheels fit the acura wheels and the stock lugnuts were reused too. The tires installed were $750 including tax and labor. They only charged me $7 per sensor to remove and reinstall them. I have ordered a spare tire for it and the proper mounting hardware too. So here is a breakdown of the costs. $300 - 2005 Acura RL Wheels from eBay $750 - New Michelin tires mounted and balanced $200 - New spare tire and mounting hardware Here are the specifications: 2005 -2007 Acura RL wheels measure 17" x 8" Michelins - 235-60-17 The tire for the spare is a T135/80D -17 Goodyear Convenience Spare that I ordered from the Tire Rack for $125 including shipping. The wheel for the spare and the hardware are Honda Items. Honda calls the wheel a disk in their parts catalog. But you will need the following from them. 42700-SHJ-A51 DISK, WHEEL (17X4T) 1 $39.58 83853-SHJ-A00 BOLT, ANCHOR 1 $2.71 74666-SHJ-A00 ADPTR, ANCHOR BOLT 1 $4.09 So for less then $1250 I have a nice looking set of wheels and new Michelin tires and no more Pax. Next time I need tires, It will only cost me about $700 not the $1600 my local Honda dealer wanted for the new Pax tires. I drove the van home and it feels like a new car. It is smooth with no shimmys. It does still pull a little but not as bad and I think an alignment will cure this too. I am very happy with this solution and glad to be rid of the Pax! If you want a package solution to your pax problem, check out the guys at College Hills Honda. They are selling complete Pax solutions and even have an online video of the process. Watch the video and you will completely understand how to dePax your car. http://www.diyhonda.com/2008/07/podcast-episode-131-honda-odyssey-depax.html
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Replying to: qwik510 (Sep 10, 2008 2:49 pm) |
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Replying to: qwik510 (Sep 10, 2008 2:49 pm) |
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For all those Touring customers looking at dePAX'ing their Tourings are going to love this new 18" 09 Ridgeline wheels. It's cheaper than the 08-09 non PAX touring wheels by $500 for a set. It requires new lugnuts for 05-06 owners. Should work just fine with the TPMS sensors. This wheel uses 245/60R18 tires so it might be a good option. Shouldn't give a super harsh ride. I'm sure those PAX users are used to it's ride. Might want to checkout the Ridgeline RTL 18" wheels. http://automobiles.honda.com/ridgeline/exterior-photos.aspx |
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| I just purchased a set of 18" MDX rims with the stock 255/55R18 tires. My intent is to depax after replacing the TPMS valves with originals from the PAX tires. I know that several have made this conversion and was looking for confirmation that this tire wheel combination has no interference issues. Any comments from those who have made the conversion using these rims and tires would be appreciated. | |
After being told in the the summer of 08 that I would have to spend $3000 to replace my bald tires with completely new wheels and tires, I held off. Now in November of 08 I have to replace these bald tires before the snow flies and started researching a DePax scenario. After pricing that out to be around $1200, I then called the Honda dealer to see if they could do the DePax. They told me they can replace the tires now that they have been trained to do so (keeping the PAX system) and thus the cost should be around $1150. Still, more expensive in the long run since the next tire replacement will still cost as much where instead doing the DePax now would allow for a less expensive replacement down the road. But, this way, I'll get the use of the PAX system that I originally paid for. Looks like Honda has come through with at least a much more economical way to replace tires on this system.
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