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#41 of 113 Re: Need Tire Advice for 05 Ody [statchmo] by faxpaw Aug 06, 2008 (4:21 pm)
Replying to: statchmo (Jul 28, 2008 1:28 pm) I have 83,000 miles on my 2005 Odyssey, 32000 miles on my second set of tires- Yokohama Avid TRZ's. I have the same LOUD noise from my Yoko tires and the tire dealer told me that these tires are cupped badly. I have always rotated my tires at 10k but he said I should have rotated the Yoko's at 6k ! He rotated the cupped tires to the front hoping the extra wear would reduce the cupping. No such luck. I can't stand the noise any longer and I'm ready to buy another set of P235/65 R16 tires. Lot's of info out there about Yoko's, most love them, then there are the rest of use who have experienced cupping problems with this tire. So is it the tire or bad/worn front struts or rear shocks? Anyway I need your help and advice as to what (quiet at least 50K wear) all season tires to try next. Thanks!
#42 of 113 Re: [cabbqking] by jackalope1 Aug 07, 2008 (10:48 am)
Replying to: cabbqking (Aug 04, 2008 3:07 pm) They are Beyern "5". 5 is the model of the wheel. It's a 5-spoke BMW wheel, actually. I found it by searching for 2008 Odyssey non-PAX wheels on the Discount Tire website. They came up with three options and this was one of them. I purchased the 17" wheel.   Hopefully this link will work:   Discount Tire
#43 of 113 Depax 06 Touring with 18" MDX by tpapaxhelp Aug 09, 2008 (12:50 pm)
I have seen all the comments to date regarding depax 06 with 18" Acura MDX wheels.   I am little confused, which tire size do I need to place on the 18" wheels to keep the dashboard indicators true? Is it 235/55R18, 245/55R18, or 255/55R18???????   Will the center caps from the PAX wheels work in the MDX wheels???   Thank You in Advance!! Replies to this message: rv65 (Aug 09, 2008 12:52 pm) theconductor (Aug 10, 2008 5:48 am) rv65 (Aug 10, 2008 9:45 am)
#44 of 113 Re: Depax 06 Touring with 18" MDX [tpapaxhelp] by rv65 Aug 09, 2008 (12:52 pm)
Replying to: tpapaxhelp (Aug 09, 2008 12:50 pm) Also you will need new lugnuts. You will need lugnuts from the 07 and up model which is required to put the MDX wheel. All 20 will have to be replaced.
#45 of 113 Re: Depax 06 Touring with 18" MDX [tpapaxhelp] by theconductor Aug 10, 2008 (5:48 am)
Replying to: tpapaxhelp (Aug 09, 2008 12:50 pm) I saw the same messages. Just the same, I was able to pick up the 2007 MDX sport six spoke 18" wheels and 255/55R18 tires. I have had them on my 2005 touring now for about a month. Physically they are about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch larger in diameter than the PAX. and about the same in the net width. Remember that the PAX have NO sidewall and the slope of the tire sidewall is totally different than a normal tire. Even with six people on bad city roads, I haven't noticed any problems. The TMPS was not compatible with the older system, so I have ordered the right sensors and once they are in we should be back in business. I guess I won't really know until the winter, but snow and ice are the norm around here.   The ride is just FANTASTIC. WE drove up and back (four people w/stuff) to Lake Geneva, WI yesterday. You would have thought the Odyssey was floating along the ground. Even with the potholes and large cracks in the road, the ride was so vastly different from those LEAD SHOES. There is a Honda Dealer in Ohio that sells a DEPAX kit, a little pricey, but it might work for you.
#46 of 113 Re: Depax 06 Touring with 18" MDX [tpapaxhelp] by rv65 Aug 10, 2008 (9:45 am)
Replying to: tpapaxhelp (Aug 09, 2008 12:50 pm) You can use the PAX centercaps. It gives it an even nicer look.
#47 of 113 Info on Depax by rv65 Aug 11, 2008 (11:28 pm)
http://www.diyhonda.com/2008/08/podcast-episode-133-viewer-questions.html   Lots of viewer questions but this one has lots of valuable info on the depax kit. HD is only recommended if you have a powerful computer with a decent amount of ram. They have a lower quality version for those with not as good computers and if you want it to take less space.
#48 of 113 dePAX at your dealer by rv65 Aug 19, 2008 (11:15 am)
You can get the stuff at your local dealers. All you need is the spare and the mounting kit, 20 all new lugnuts, TPMS sensors, and possibly new centercaps. EX wheels can be used as well. 07 owners will have to use 07 and up EX wheels due to the lugnuts. The 20 lugnuts are if you want to use 08 non PAX touring wheels or 07- MDX wheels. PAX centercaps can be used and they can enhance the look of the wheels. If you want you can get new ones from Honda. You don't have to get this at collegehillshonda. If you prefer getting it done locally then just go to your local dealer. Hope this helps.
#49 of 113 Re: 2005 to 2008 Odyssey Touring Wheel Conversion [mtmsimple] by mikepiston Sep 09, 2008 (12:01 am)
Replying to: mtmsimple (Jul 31, 2008 3:50 am) I got a broken TPMS and went to Belle Tire. They have two TPMS. I picked the cheaper one (Orange TPMS). It's only about 2/3 price and no problem for function. I didn't see anything wrong. So I think this Orange TPMS is fine. At least, I saved much money per TPMS.
#50 of 113 My Pax Solution by qwik510 Sep 10, 2008 (2:49 pm)
Hi Everyone,   We bought a 2005 Odyssey Touring model brand new in June 2005. Within the first week, we had problems with the car pulling to the right and a shimmy in the steering between 60-65 mph. The dealer rebalanced the front wheels and did an alignment. The shimmy was better but not completely gone. The pulling was still there. We took it back several more times for these problems and they rotated the tires from front to rear. The shimmy was almost completely gone and the pulling was less noticeable but still there. Around the 20K miles mark, the shimmy got worse and it still pulled so we took it back. They said that the tires were in need of replacement and that 2 new tires would be $800 installed. I told them that we rotated the tires every 5000 miles and that they should be covered by the warranty. It was wasted breath on my part. They said it was not covered. I looked at the tires and they were only worn on the outer edges. We decided to keep them and just deal with the shimmy and the pulling and try to get some more mileage from them. I then looked on the internet and found that many others were having similar issues and that there is a class action suit against Honda and Michelin for these Pax systems. I also found that many people have replaced the pax wheels with regular wheels and tires. I prepared to do this too.   In the spring, I started shopping for wheels. I was told that many of the Honda and Acura wheels can be used as a replacement. I didn't want to use the Odyssey EX wheels as everyone has them and they are only 16" wheels and they were bringing alot of money on eBay when they showed up as the demand for them was high. Someone had posted on another forum that the 2005-2007 Acura RL wheels worked for them so I started looking for a set. In May, I located a set on ebay in good shape for $300 including shipping. They sat in my garage until today.   I called my local tire shop last Friday and I asked the owner what he knew about the problem. He told me that he has dome several Pax replacements with other wheels and tires. He said he can reuse my TPMS sensors. I asked him if he had the machine to unmount the Pax tires and he said no. He told me that they just cut a flap into the sidewall of the old pax tire near the tire valve and remove the sensor through the hole they created. I asked him to order me a set of tires and he told me to bring the car in Today.   So with 41,300 miles on the Pax tires and an upcoming road trip planned, I went to my local tire shop and purchased a set of Michelin tires from them. Here is what they did to do the install.   They pulled the pax wheels off the car and let the air out of the tires. Then they cut a section out of the sidewall using a utility knife. They removed the sensors and installed them onto my Acura RL wheels. Then they mounted the new tires as with any normal wheel and balanced them and installed them back onto my Van. The Honda center caps from my Pax wheels fit the acura wheels and the stock lugnuts were reused too.   The tires installed were $750 including tax and labor. They only charged me $7 per sensor to remove and reinstall them.   I have ordered a spare tire for it and the proper mounting hardware too.   So here is a breakdown of the costs.   $300 - 2005 Acura RL Wheels from eBay $750 - New Michelin tires mounted and balanced $200 - New spare tire and mounting hardware   Here are the specifications:   2005 -2007 Acura RL wheels measure 17" x 8"   Michelins - 235-60-17   The tire for the spare is a T135/80D -17 Goodyear Convenience Spare that I ordered from the Tire Rack for $125 including shipping.   The wheel for the spare and the hardware are Honda Items. Honda calls the wheel a disk in their parts catalog. But you will need the following from them. 42700-SHJ-A51 DISK, WHEEL (17X4T) 1 $39.58 83853-SHJ-A00 BOLT, ANCHOR 1 $2.71 74666-SHJ-A00 ADPTR, ANCHOR BOLT 1 $4.09   So for less then $1250 I have a nice looking set of wheels and new Michelin tires and no more Pax. Next time I need tires, It will only cost me about $700 not the $1600 my local Honda dealer wanted for the new Pax tires.   I drove the van home and it feels like a new car. It is smooth with no shimmys. It does still pull a little but not as bad and I think an alignment will cure this too. I am very happy with this solution and glad to be rid of the Pax!   If you want a package solution to your pax problem, check out the guys at College Hills Honda. They are selling complete Pax solutions and even have an online video of the process. Watch the video and you will completely understand how to dePax your car.   http://www.diyhonda.com/2008/07/podcast-episode-131-honda-odyssey-depax.html Replies to this message: bowtiefan1 (Sep 10, 2008 6:21 pm) jackalope1 (Sep 24, 2008 4:37 pm)

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