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Re: TPMS & VSA [bigdadi118] by noblethomas
Oct 17, 2009 (11:38 am)
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Replying to: bigdadi118 (Oct 15, 2009 6:37 pm)

Had a conversation with a Honda service advisor who seemed to really know what he was talking about (no "I think", or "I understand"). He stated that the VSA system will not function when the TPMS is not functioning. The Honda implimentation of TPMS only allows for storing the registsration of 4 specific sensor serial numbers (unlike other vehicles that allow 8). So if you have two sets of wheels for winter/summer, 1. they both have to have TPMS sensors and 2. The sensors must be re-registered every time the wheels are changed in order for the VSA to work. If you didn't want to go to the expense of re-registering, he suggested using the wheels with TPMS sensors for winter when the VSA is most valuable.
 
Looking at the whole picture (safety, cost) I have come to the conclusion to simply have the tires changed on original wheels each fall and spring due to the problems with two sets of wheels. I have been successful in the past at getting a tire dealer to include all those change outs with the snow tire deal buy adding about $60 to the cost of the deal. Will see how I do this year and let you know.
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Re: TPMS & VSA [noblethomas] by sodomojo
Oct 29, 2009 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: noblethomas (Oct 17, 2009 11:38 am)

I did some internet research and found this:
 
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It appears it will do the job and then I found a discussion on another board.
 
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Honda Odyssey Touring 2010 - VSA & Grinding Problems by spikey09
Nov 01, 2009 (1:11 pm)
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We have just purchased a brand new 2010 HONDA "ODYSSEY TOURING MINIVAN ".
 It had been "Test-Driven" during the 84 miles to the NC Dealer who was selected.
 Though 2 hrs away from our home, they had miraculously produced the color that I, (the "wife") had desired. We checked reputation of car and dealership!
 
  After inital driving approx 40 minutes out -and while ascending a winding uphill Mt. Highway at 70 mph, - the V.S.A. LIGHT and ALARM sounded accompanied by sounds similar to a home "Sump Pump cycle". This was accompanied by HORRIBLE GRINDING NOISES - like driving on metal rims only. Thank god I, (a lesser-experienced-Driver), was not at the wheel and could easily have lost control by being surprised at 75 m.p.h between trailers.!)
 
After turning VSA back-on the same scenario occurred --whether ascending or descending -- heavy turns or slight -- different speeds (incl 30 mph on local winding country road ).
 
Next AM - we reported to selling Dealer who was completely unsympathetic to the danger, just denied any awareness of the problem, and suggested my husband, (an experienced middle-aged Driver with considerable background in Auto Mechanics ) "might just have left the safety brakes on"!!
 
We then contacted nearby local Honda Dealer and insisted the Van be picked up on flatbed that morning. After Computer and Testdriving by different Tech/Mechanics with the same results - they concurred on the serious problem and said they were " stumped and never experienced this before". (Neither did we - after spending over 40K$ the afternoon before) . This Monday AM : Nov 2, a Honda Rep will be brought in and begin "Conference-Call Repair Sessions " with Honda Tech-Engineers. (Do I smell a recall situation brewing??)
 
   We're very concerned with the danger and a recurring lemon nightmare that might follow - and have been researching blogs on Goggle. Did anyone else experience this situation? and with what reasons and results??. Any tips or advice from professional mechanics or recommendations from savvy readers?? Should we keep this car? How do we protect ourselves -asap?? PLEASE HELP! Thank you in advance.. Spikey09 Mom
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Re: TPMS & VSA [sodomojo] by noblethomas
Nov 02, 2009 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: sodomojo (Oct 29, 2009 2:00 pm)

I think it is great there is a potential solution out there however I am too timid to want to mess with my Odyssey's OBC for fear of something going wrong and having to pay big bucks to a Honda dealer to correct things.
 
Since my original series of posts on this matter, I was able to purchase a set of Blizzak WS-60s from a local dealer at a price competitive to TireRack ($525 including everything) AND they agreed to do the fall/spring change overs at no cost as long as the snow tires last. No wheels to buy, no tool to mess with,... talk about a "no brainer".
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Re: Honda Odyssey Touring 2010 - VSA & Grinding Problems [spikey09] by spikey09
Nov 03, 2009 (4:03 pm)
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Replying to: spikey09 (Nov 01, 2009 1:11 pm)

New Update: TECHLINE by Honda America Conferenced-Call diagnosed the problem with our local Auto Dealership Service Dept. - SOLUTION: mail over and Replace the Entire "MODULAR" - thereby correcting: (1) Vehicle Stability Control Audible and Lite Alarm - and (2) very loud grinding noise (which is like marbles rolling and being ground up) - probably the ABS and TCS and (3) Hydraulic Pump-like Sounds resembling a Sump-Pump.
 
NO LUCK - still the same problems - especially driving into a curve. HONDA is Clueless...Now we really have a problem and have lost faith in Honda's Reputation of Reliability. Plus we're "out" a $40K+ brand new car that we haven't been able to sniff or touch since we drove it home last Thursday... (Only the Selling Dealer, who has demonstrated the fact he doesn't give a Damn, is Happy!!
(I promise a Reward for the Hero who solves this Lemon P problem)
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Re: Honda Odyssey Touring 2010 - VSA & Grinding Problems [spikey09] by bigdadi118
Nov 04, 2009 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: spikey09 (Nov 03, 2009 4:03 pm)

Use Lemon Law to get Honda buy back the car.
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Re: Honda Odyssey Touring 2010 - VSA & Grinding Problems [bigdadi118] by spikey09
Nov 05, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: bigdadi118 (Nov 04, 2009 6:47 pm)

Thanks BigDadi118 - We've researched this option already, and even contacted local N.C. "Lemon Lawyers". It's necessary to pass the required :3X+in or 20 total business days in the repair shop period to qualify for "Lemonhood".
    Meanwhile, our distress continues as it is a week since we pickedup the new Van and it's still languishing at the AutoDealer Repair Shop.: Honda Tech now determined it was a defective "STEERING ANGLE SENSOR" - which was miscommunicating to the V.S.A.system with a "no signal" on turning the steering wheel...they're sending a relacement S.A.S.today!!
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PS (Honda is now getting investigated by the Feds regarding the Safety of 2009 Brake Compaints on the Odyssey Minvan !! Hope our problem doesn't become another issue that will poorly brand the Odyssey for "Tradein Value". It's unfortunate that Honda needs outside legal pressure to force them to protect "SoccerMoms" and others! Wow, Honda sems to be buckling under in this hard economy and becoming totally "Americanized"in the worse sense of our unfortunate Automobile History --- what a great and priceless loss to their sterling reputation this will be!!
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HONDA ODYSSEY TOURNG 2010 by spikey09
Nov 06, 2009 (2:49 pm)
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Final resolution after a full week of tests: trial and error. Replacement of THE STEERING ANGLE SENSOR finally did the trick. And we finally got to enjoy our new car after all the angst and nightmarish tension... Thanks to Russell and supporting team at the Service Dept of APPLETREE HONDA of Fletcher, NC (near Asheville). Their dedicated focus, together with amazing cooperation from Honda, (and a little help from up there). Thank God this is resolved!
Our advice: Document a running diary of date, time, persons contacted, and "blow-by-blow" notes. Read and scour the internet - and get "learnt" quick! Then, sit back and pray...saving the "manuscripts"
in your Auto Warrantee and Service Folder (just in case).
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Re: HONDA ODYSSEY TOURNG 2010 [spikey09] by bigdadi118
Nov 10, 2009 (8:48 pm)
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Replying to: spikey09 (Nov 06, 2009 2:49 pm)

How much time and other stuffs did you put in regarding this Honda new car problems? This is a TOURING, the most expensive Ody. Should Honda have better quality controls? You bought a 1st class ticket and they put you in the last row of seat right next to the toilet in the coach class. Steering Angle sensor, uh, prepare for crash landing if the touring is a plane.

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