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Re: not your normal water leak [midnightcamaro]
by imidazol97
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Sep 15, 2008 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: midnightcamaro (Sep 15, 2008 6:31 pm)
I believe you'll need jackstands to support the car up a little to allow room to crawl under to find the outlet. But if the water doesn't smell like antifreeze, that's a good thing.
You'll want to try to suck the water out of the carpet and the underlayment with a good shop vacuum. Some people take out the carpet to get it dried. You might try a mold preventative treatment that they're marketing at home depot and lowes in the paint department. Corundum or something like that. It's an enzyme using a carbonate salt as a carrier to hold it after it dries in place. Another is sporiclean at killmoldfast.com I think is the site.
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- #61 of 101
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Re: not your normal water leak [imidazol97]
by midnightcamaro
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Sep 16, 2008 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 15, 2008 6:40 pm)
yes i know ill need jackstands. im not a complete idiot lol. never messed with a pontiac just wanted to see if anyone ran into this or any other suggestions before i work on it. ill check into that mold stuff though im sure her car needs it, since she waited about a month to say anything, and another month has gone by and she is just now going to bring it over. but my dad has been sucking the water out of the floor from time to time, so well see i may just go ahead and take it out and clean it.
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- #62 of 101
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Re: not your normal water leak [midnightcamaro]
by imidazol97
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Sep 16, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: midnightcamaro (Sep 16, 2008 11:49 am)
Let us know when you open the drain for the AC and if that was the problem...
I was hoping everyone knows to use jackstands for crawling under... but I don't want to have someone find out the hard way.
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- #63 of 101
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Does your mom take it through the carwash?
by kts0347
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Sep 19, 2008 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: midnightcamaro (Sep 16, 2008 11:49 am)
Seems like a lot of water for the AC - but not many other internal sources. No rain either. How about car wash - does mom like a squeeky clean car? If that's not the source, does mom have a very big dog? 
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- #64 of 101
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Re: Does your mom take it through the carwash? [kts0347]
by midnightcamaro
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Sep 19, 2008 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: kts0347 (Sep 19, 2008 6:22 am)
haha no mom doesnt have a big dog, no dog could piss that much haha. and no she doesnt wash her car. yea it does seem like too much water for a/c but i guess well see. i feel pretty sure its the drain though. like i was saying when we cut the car off the poured out a lot of water. but as stated its not coolant so.....yea ill definetly let yall know what happens with it, if she has time shes gonna bring it by tonight if not i guess itll be tomorrow. it was nice to find a website where people will help you think on things and talk with you like a normal person. im a huge car fan so i am on all kinds of other forums, and its hard to find anyone that ever replies unless its some dumb comment that has nothing to do with anything you posted. so i appreciate it guys and ill let ya know what i find.
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- #65 of 101
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Re: Does your mom take it through the carwash? [midnightcamaro]
by midnightcamaro
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Sep 21, 2008 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: midnightcamaro (Sep 19, 2008 12:38 pm)
aight guys....well i got under the car, found the drain stopped up, just gave it a squeeze and it drained out water for over an hour. then pulled the drain off, to find all kinds of dirt stuck in it. and this drain is a 90 degree elbow and on the outlet has 2 flaps so its kinda closed but open enough for water to get out. which also keeps road dirt from collecting inside it when water is dripping out. well i was wondering how that much gunk got inside there then i pop the hood and check and guess what....no cabin air filter. i guess someone took it out somewhere my mom gets her oil changed at and never put it back, i dunno. so cleaned drain put in cabin filter, then came the fun of cleaning out water. removed trim panels seat pull up carpet. keep in mind my dad had been sucking water out already for the past 2 months, and i bet i sucked out close to 5 gallons. there was so much foam padding under carpet that it was hard to get it all out in an afternoons time, but i got it about the best i could, and mom needed her car back so....really needed to be set out in sun for a few days but mom cant ride around without carpet. lol all the wiring still looked ok, and scrubbed the carpet with some cleaner but the rest is just gonna have to dry out on its own now. but i dont imagine most of yall would have to worry about this problem since i believe it was due mostly to filter missing, just make sure if you take your car somewhere to get the oil changed that they put it back in.
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- #66 of 101
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Re: not your normal water leak [imidazol97]
by imidazol97
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Sep 22, 2008 (4:25 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 15, 2008 1:25 pm)
Glad to hear that your problem was only the drain. At least there's light at the end of the tunnel.
As for dryiing things... if you park the car in a garage, consider using a small fan left on blowing through the car. Leaving the doors open won't keep the cabin lights on if the car has auto power off feature. The moving air will help take out moisture. Or if they park outside, leave the windows open even an inch or so especially on days where there's a breeze through the car.
As for the cabin filter, I assume it has the frame in place so you know there was one there from the factory.
In 03 the cabin filter was dropped as a factory part. So those cars had people thinking there was a cabin filter in place when there really wasn't. I had to purchase a filter with the plastic skeleton frame and snap it all into place. It was several thousand miles after I bought it when I checked the opening where the filter goes.
The quick change places do lots of things wrong and charge for parts they don't put in. They probably charged for the filter but didn't put one in. A mechanic friend of mine who owned an Astro van with a very difficult to change air filter told about a friend of his who took the car to a quick change place years ago and they regularly changed the filter. My friend asked how long it took them, and the 2nd person said they were in and out in a short time.
My mechanic friend told him to ask for the old filter back the next time they changed it. It took them an hour for the oil change this time. The mechanic came out with the air filter looking tired and sweaty. Working above a tight, hot motor does that to you.
The filter they took out was the ORIGINAL GM filter installed at the factory--all blocked with filtrate. After showing the filter to my mechanic friend, the 2nd friend returned to the quick change, talked to the manager, and got oil changes for life on the van due to the rip-off they had perpetrated on him charging for a new air filter every 2nd oil change or so!!!
Check for receipts for the filter replacement if your mom kept them--(she should keep every receipt).
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- #67 of 101
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Re: not your normal water leak [imidazol97]
by midnightcamaro
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Sep 22, 2008 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 22, 2008 4:25 am)
yea i dont mom still has reciepts but ill check. thats interesting about the filters, it may have not had one i dunno in that case. it didnt have a plastic tray to sit in, i reffrecened a book but i couldnt find anything in it. went ahead and got a filter but the way it was made it kinda folded on one side a little to match the shape of the cowl. so i just stuck it in there for now. where can i get the factory peice to retain it?
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- #68 of 101
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Re: cabin air filter replacement [midnightcamaro]
by kts0347
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Sep 25, 2008 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: midnightcamaro (Sep 22, 2008 10:35 am)
I just replaced my 02 cabin filter with one I bought at Advance. It didn't have any loose parts, just the filter. It folds at about 1/3 - 2/3 to form an L shape. The bigger piece goes horizontal into the opening, and the smaller piece fits down the front of the opening. There are guides on the sides of the opening to support the filter. If yours went in ok as described and seated against the guides, you shouldn't need any additional parts.
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- #69 of 101
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Re: cabin air filter replacement [kts0347]
by imidazol97
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Sep 25, 2008 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: kts0347 (Sep 25, 2008 12:07 pm)
There's a frame or skeleton into which the filter is pushed. Yours may already have the frame.
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