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Re: rust bubbles and white flakes from vents [jmillerjmiller]
by yen_s_liu
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May 20, 2009 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: jmillerjmiller (Apr 23, 2009 8:24 pm)
My 2008 Honda Accord has a humongous paint problem! I bought my brand-new Honda Accord in May 2008 at Round Rock Honda in Texas. A couple of months later, I noticed there were spots all over the car, the hood, roof, door, trunk top. In July 2009, I took my car to the dealership for problem analysis, and they told me it's caused by bird dropping and tree sap. They estimated to re-paint the car would cost $3,300. I trusted their judgement because I bought 4 Honda's from this dealership. In good faith, I took it to a body shop to repair the damage, which I used before. After the owner of the body shop examined my car, he concluded the paint is defective. In August 2009, I contacted the dealership and opened a case with Honda Customer Service. The dealership set me up to meet with Jerry Meade from American Honda Motor Co., from Dallas, Texas. Mr. Meade was very belligerent and re-iterated the paint damage is caused by bird dropping and tree sap. Mr. Meade's attitude was so hostile, at one point of time during our meeting, he threw the key of my vehicle back to me. A day later, Brian Magana from the Customer Service called me back. Brian stated the cause of the damage is environmental elements and the case is closed. He further stated there is no escalation and will not return any future calls from me. I retained an attorney, and under his suggestion, in November I located a paint/coating company in Pennsylvania to test the paint. In January 2009, I received the report , and the report concludes no organic contamination on the paint. In April 2009, my attorney wrote a letter to America Honda Co. and the dealership with the report attached. Within a week, American Honda replied and re-confirmed their prior decision. As I discussed this with my attorney to explore the possibility of taking legal actions, my attorney explained to me that the estimated cost is around $20,000 without the attorney fees. My attorney told me this case is not cost effective for me to pursue. I have been a loyal Honda customer, and America Honda will not help with the paint problem when their product is defective. Most of all, I feel very hurt. I feel I am powerless when it comes to going against the giant American Honda Co. I have pictures, report, and statement to show the facts, but I won't be able to legally make America Honda to step up the plate because of the cost involved.
I am looking for help. If you have any viable solution, please contact me at yen_s_liu yahoo.com
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Re: rust bubbles and white flakes from vents [yen_s_liu]
by foxwood_21
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May 20, 2009 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: yen_s_liu (May 20, 2009 5:55 pm)
Honda agreed to replace my hood there a hole in it and also replace the evaporator the anti fungus coating is coming off its the coating on it
this work is being done next week,, I have to rent a car as honda has no rental program unless you have the honda care .
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Re: rust bubbles and white flakes from vents [yen_s_liu]
by elroy5
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May 20, 2009 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: yen_s_liu (May 20, 2009 5:55 pm)
You could try another Lawyer. This Lawyer obviously doesn't think your case is strong enough to win.
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Re: rust bubbles and white flakes from vents [yen_s_liu]
by jmillerjmiller
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May 21, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: yen_s_liu (May 20, 2009 5:55 pm)
Filing a lawsuit and taking it through a trial is very expensive. About twelve years ago I looked into suing my previous homes builder over a water issue in the basement. The lawyer said that I would need to put up about $10K as a retainer to cover getting it through trial. After the trial, if you win you can request the costs be placed on the defendant, but the inverse is also true should you loose.
Quite often you will read that in the case of a car company, they will make the person take it all the way, then offer a settlement right before the court date for the trial (if you look to have a good case). Sadly it is cheaper and easier to fix it yourself than sue, unless there is a small claims court you can use instead. I envy people that have a lawyer in their family when it comes to this stuff.
The normal cure for this issue is to trade it in with a moderate layer of road dirt at night.
The paint on my car has a couple pinhead size areas under the clear coat with no color, and a thin white circle around it - from what I can find online they are probably 'solvent pops' on mine.
The jury is out on my car in general, but it feels more 'americarish' than I like - I miss the old low dash, and the better build quality on the older ones.
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Re: oil change [edk57] oil consumption 2008 accord v6 [rbbrick]
by edk57
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May 27, 2009 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: rbbrick (Feb 17, 2009 7:28 pm)
Roger,
How the new block is working for you? Did the oil consumption issue fixed. My car is at the dealer now to replace the short block, should I be aware of any issues when its time for me to pick it up. Thanks
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Re: oil change [edk57] oil consumption 2008 accord v6 [rbbrick] [edk57]
by rbbrick
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May 27, 2009 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: edk57 (May 27, 2009 9:39 am)
Yes I have 6800 miles on the new short block and heads. Slight oil consumption 1/2 quart in 3200 miles.... it should get better over time.. But runs better than the old one more torque and smooth.
I broke it in carefully during first 600 miles - no jack rabbit starts or high revs over 3500 rpms
Thats about it .
Roger 
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2008 Accord - Windshield Wiper Replacement
by guitar4him
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May 27, 2009 (10:55 am)
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I need to replace the wipers on my 2008 Accord. There is some kind of weird cover over most of the wiper....they aren't exposed like most other vehicles. Anybody changed theirs yet who could offer some tips as to how to remove the covers without damaging them?
Ken
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Re: 2008 Accord - Windshield Wiper Replacement [guitar4him]
by mrbill1957
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May 27, 2009 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: guitar4him (May 27, 2009 10:55 am)
It sounds like you have "winter blades" on your car. If so, you need to replace the whole assembly, not just the rubber wiper part. If you do an online search on "Trico winter blades" you will find pictures to verify that's what you have.
Mrbill
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Re: 2008 Accord - Windshield Wiper Replacement [mrbill1957]
by guitar4him
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May 28, 2009 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: mrbill1957 (May 27, 2009 1:48 pm)
I looked up the Trico winter blades that you suggested. This is not what is on my 2008 Accord. I've been changing wipers blades on cars for 30 years. What's on my Accord is unlike anything I've ever encountered before. The carrier for the blades is plastic and is in several sections. I'm still at a loss as to how to approach a replacement.
Ken
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Re: 2008 Accord - Windshield Wiper Replacement [guitar4him]
by mrbill1957
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May 28, 2009 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: guitar4him (May 28, 2009 3:18 pm)
There is also a "beam blade" which looks like a frameless blade. I see Trico shows pics of them on their web site. Try www.tricoproducts.com and select the Neoform or Innovision blade.
Good luck
Mrbill
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