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Replying to: rkirchoff (Mar 10, 2009 6:17 am)
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Replying to: accordhunter (Mar 10, 2009 5:13 am)
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I purchased my 2008 Accord coupe (San Marino Red) in October of 2007 upon its release and thus far its been trouble free (sans a minor interior rattle)... I just discovered that it's paint is peeling around the edges of the tail-lights (on the bottom of the tail-light on the plastic bumper- and on the edge of the tail-lamp going up the side on the metal). I have waxed the car 3 times since purchased and have always taken care of it. This is my second Accord to do this (last was a 2003 Accord Sedan in Tafetta white which peeled horribly). Does anyone else have this problem - or have had it with a previous Honda ? I am taking the car in this week to have it checked out and would like to know what reccomendations anyone may have regarding this issue and its resolution. Thanks
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Replying to: tallman1 (Mar 10, 2009 7:24 am) |
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Replying to: jhinsc (Mar 10, 2009 6:56 am) i keep it blowed out since i drive around 80mph most of the time on the highway. and if you're going to tell me that my speed is the reason why i am getting such poor mileage then do tell me then why my 04 exv6 got 28.5 at 80mph. my previous 04 exv6 would run circles around this 08 exv6. it handled better and the seat didn't hurt my back as well. plus..the 04 didn't have that eco engine thing. get this too...i've found that not all cars are built the same in the factory. some have bigger gas tanks than what was initially reported. my 08 accord with ex-l v6 has a 22 gallon gas tank. i've put in 21 gallons before all the way to the rim. yes..i do fill it to the rim each and everytime i fill up. i've been told of the hazards of overfill but i don't believe it. if it were such a problem then the factory and the gov't would have put an block within the tank to prevent such a thing. but there is not a block. it did happen back in the 20's and 30's. my friends and family and myself have been filling to the rim since we were old enough to drive back in the mid 60's and we've never encountered or heard of any problems with filling to the rim. so...end of discussion about my gas tank filling. i've taken my car to a dealership and had them certify my tank's capacity. it was certified at 22gallons. to me, the performance and gas mileage is due to that 6-4-3 eco within the engine. cadillac tried it back in the mid 80's for 2 years and it worked so well for them that they only did it for 2 years and they had nothing but problems with it. sure...it looks good on paper but it doesn't work as well as what paper shows. how do i know this about cadillac? my parents owned one of them and traded it 8 months after they got it. |
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Mar 11, 2009 8:41 am) First of all, your 04 Accord was lighter and the engine smaller than your 08. Just think how much better the mileage would have been in your old car if you drove slower than 80. I'm assuming that all other factors are the same as what you drove before. Same road and same surfaces, same temp, same locations, same tires, etc. The fact is that speed really kills mileage. I'll bet you'd see a marked improvement if you chose to drive slower. The fact that you are still calling it "that eco engine thing" shows that you probably still are not familiar with VCM. Hopefully, you visited the Accord VCM forum here. I see that you haven't posted anything there but you might find someone who will commiserate with you. Chances are that you may not be hurting your car by overfilling your gas tank. However, there are issues with it, whether you choose to believe them or not. You may also find friends here: 2008 Accord Seats. Good luck! |
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Mar 11, 2009 8:41 am) ...performance... so this says you're not driving for economy, but performance? VCM (eco thing) works best with a steady foot on the throttle with steady speeds, not moving it up/down like most people tend to do. i keep it blowed out since i drive around 80mph Sorry, seriously doubt it... even my 06 EXL V6 wouldn't do this kind of mileage as this speed. get this too...i've found that not all cars are built the same in the factory. some have bigger gas tanks than what was initially reported. my 08 accord with ex-l v6 has a 22 gallon gas tank. i've put in 21 gallons before all the way to the rim. yes..i do fill it to the rim each and everytime i fill up. i've been told of the hazards of overfill but i don't believe it. Wow, you actually think the factory installs different sized gas tanks on the same model? Maybe you should check the station you're using to fill up - they could be overcharging you if their pumps are not calibrated correctly? Overfilling can damage your evaporated emissions system. I've never been able to overfill my tank to that extent. I top off mine by pumping until the hand pump clicks off 2x, resulting in less than 1 add'l gallon added. i've taken my car to a dealership and had them certify my tank's capacity. it was certified at 22gallons. How? to me, the performance and gas mileage is due to that 6-4-3 eco within the engine. cadillac tried it back in the mid 80's for 2 years The "eco" does work - it's seems to me you're trying to defeat it. You do realize it's 2009 now - not the 1980's? Technology and computing hardware/software now is light years ahead of 25-30 years ago. BTW, GM has a newer version of cyl deactivation on their 5.3 ltr V8 and it works well, as proven on my 07 Chev Avalanche, again with a steady foot on the gas pedal.
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Replying to: jhinsc (Mar 12, 2009 3:25 am) you fill your tank as high as you desire and i will do the same. some claim that overfill damages the evaporator emissions. i say it doesn't. i say it is just a bunch of horse hockey. i've been doing it too long and so have my friends and family and if the assumption were true about the damage then it should have happened to at least 1 of my circle of 50 or friends/relatives throughout their 40+ years of driving. And to answer your dumb question about how to certify a gas tank...the dealership removed the gas tank...emptied it completely then filled it with a liquid and measured the amount of liquid that it held. they did it 3 times to ensure a fair and more accurate measurement. i didn't believe my tank was bigger and they sure as heck didn't too...but it was. and last but not least...the eco thing does NOT work. it does NOT provide better fuel mileage and it most certainly DOES rob the engine of performance.
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Mar 12, 2009 5:47 am) Topping off the gas tank can result in your paying for gasoline that is fed back into the station's tanks because your gas tank is full. The gas nozzle automatically clicks off when your gas tank is full. In areas of ozone nonattainment, gas station pumps are equipped with vapor recovery systems that feed back gas vapors into their tanks to prevent vapors from escaping into the air and contributing to air pollution. Any additional gas you try to pump into your tank may be drawn into the vapor line and fed back into the station’s storage tanks. Gasoline vapors are harmful to breathe. Gasoline vapors contribute to bad ozone days and are a source of toxic air pollutants such as benzene. Evaporation from the spillage of gas from overfilling can occur, contributing to the air pollution problem. Remember you pay for the gas that evaporates or is spilled on the ground. You need extra room in your gas tank to allow the gasoline to expand. If you top off your tank, the extra gas may evaporate into your vehicle’s vapor collection system. That system may become fouled and will not work properly causing your vehicle to run poorly and have high gas emissions. Topping off your gas tank may foul the station's vapor recovery system. Adding more gas after the nozzle has automatically shut off can cause the station's vapor recovery system to operate improperly. This contributes to the air pollution problem and may cause the gas pump to fail to work for the next person. I guess the other posters/readers can decide for themselves... you, or the EPA. Frankly, I don't want to risk it since adding extra fuel, even if it ended up not hurting anything, will still likely cost me more money in the long run, since I'm hauling around more weight, and losing money on the gas that goes back into the pump. Overfilling accomplishes nothing. and last but not least...the eco thing does NOT work. it does NOT provide better fuel mileage and it most certainly DOES rob the engine of performance. How do you know? Have you driven a car like yours without it? Nope, because no automatic V6 Accord exists without it. I'd say it most certainly does help. |
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