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by rkirchoff
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Jan 29, 2009 (8:49 am)
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I've yet to see any Honda commercials revealing the VCM crap. FYI, my 08 honda has a 5speed auto...not a 6 speed auto. It is not as responsive as the 04 and it does not handle as well as the 04 nor does it get as good mileage as the 04 accord v6. Screw Honda!
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- #795 of 1114
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Re: [rkirchoff]
by thegraduate
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Jan 29, 2009 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Jan 29, 2009 5:05 am)
Sorry, I fail to see how it's Honda's fault for not knowing what you were buying, or for taking a through test-drive. They advertise their VCM everywhere, as tallman pointed out. Also, if its on the window-sticker, it should be common-sense that the salesperson shouldn't have to itemize each particular detail listed there.
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- #796 of 1114
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Re: [rkirchoff]
by jhinsc
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Jan 29, 2009 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Jan 29, 2009 8:49 am)
We get the fact you're unhappy about the "eco" thing, but how is it Honda's fault that you didn't know about it? They make no attempt to hide it, in fact they advertise on their websites and in print ad's and on sites like Edmunds and others. It existed in the previous model Accord Hybrid, the previous and current Pilot, the current Odyssey, and now the current model Accord. 
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- #797 of 1114
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Re: 2008/9 Brake Noise [branders]
by mwest75
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Jan 30, 2009 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: branders (Jan 28, 2009 8:56 am)
Branders, thank you very, very much for posting your information here. My wife and I leased an '09 Accord back in September and have had the exact same problem with the brakes since November. After two trips to Honda, they did the same thing with rotors and pads that you described and it was only a temp fix (also as you described). At this point we're fed up and plan to follow your lead in contacting the Service Manager at our dealership and ultimately the District Manager as you did. How did you manage to get the District Manager's contact info by the way?
Once again thank you for posting your dilemma and if I have any luck in finding/gaining a solution, I'll certainly share it.
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- #798 of 1114
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Re: oil change [Lornals]
by edk57
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Feb 02, 2009 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: Lornals (Jan 28, 2009 9:53 pm)
My 2008 Accord EX-L V6 burns and consumes one quart of Oil per 1000 mile. There Technical experts state that is Normal. Also, the brakes on this car has a squeaky noise when cold and the dashboard get filled with white residue from the heat/AC vents. I definitely don’t recommend this car to anyone.
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- #799 of 1114
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Re: oil change [edk57]
by rbbrick
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Feb 03, 2009 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: edk57 (Feb 02, 2009 7:49 pm)
Regarding the oil consumption, your technical experts are plain WRONG. I have the same problem, I have escalated this issue with Honda America, Area Honda Rep and Dealer Service Mgr. The process is you need to request an oil consumption test for several 1000 mile cycles and if your car uses 1000 quart per thousand or more they must FIX IT. My car is going in to have the short block replaced today. It appears to be a ring problem on a few motors since only a few customers have had this experience. Honda acceptable specifications for oil consumption are 1 qt per 1000 but close to that they must do something for you. Finally I have noticed that the older my oil is the more it consumes, after a oil change it degrades from 1200m per qt, to <1000m per quart so you have to do at least 3 or 4 thousand mile tests with the same oil in place. Roger
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Re: oil change [rbbrick]
by edk57
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Feb 03, 2009 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: rbbrick (Feb 03, 2009 6:40 am)
Thank you for a very helpful reply. I will make my dealer re-do the oil consumption test for several thousands miles as you recommended, and I will let them know that Honda is fixing engines due to ring problems... please post any future progress on your engine and I’ll do the same. Again thanks a million.
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Re: 2008/9 Brake Noise [mwest75]
by keitha3
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Feb 03, 2009 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: mwest75 (Jan 30, 2009 7:54 am)
When did the noise first begin? I have about 5K on my Accord with no noise yet, but I have had that squeal on a previous Accord and it drove me nuts. Any others having this problem on the '09's. I'll definitely be more than peeved if it becomes a problem with mine.
You guys have a right to complain...
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Re: oil change [edk57]
by frustrated2009
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Feb 04, 2009 (2:31 pm)
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Replying to: edk57 (Feb 03, 2009 9:26 am)
Happy to be in good company. We have the same problem. What could it be? Where could the oil be going? We have No indication where it might be going- no leaks, puddles, smoke etc. We've got a 2005 Honda Odyssey that's eating oil like there's no tomorrow. It was a gradual problem at first. Now, it's really become a problem and an inconvenience!  The van finally broke down on Christmas eve. Check engine light was on and the van just wouldn't accelerate past 50 after gasing up while on a trip out of state.  We had it towed to the nearest dealer who kept it for 3 weeks. They replaced gaskets, an O-ring, Fuel injector assy, catalytic converter, spark plugs etc. It's driveable now, but after two weeks we checked the oil level and it was two quarts low on oil since we took possession of it two weeks ago. Took it into the Honda dealer where we purchased it. They told me last year that it would take several days if not a week to diagnose the oil consumption problem. This was before the partial engine failure we experienced Christmas eve. Same day they called me and told me the van was ready for pick-up. They'd checked it out. Changed the oil. Couldn't find a thing. Bring it back in two weeks. HUH??? Ridiculous!!! Any suggestions? We're still covered by an extended warrantee for 20,000 more miles. Too bad the catalytic converter wasn't.
Diagnosis at engine failure: "Caused by Found 30 PSI in cylinder one. 130 in all others removed head and found exhaust valve burnt through." In English this means?? Thanks for your help in advance.
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