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Re: [rkirchoff]
by dpmeersman
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Jan 29, 2009 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Jan 29, 2009 5:05 am)
There have been television commercials touting Honda's VCM, it's mentioned in all reviews dealing with the V6 versions, the brochure from the dealership mentions it etc,etc. A little due diligence on your part before shelling out $25-28,000 on your Honda or any other car, was in order. Having said that, VCM is noticeable and by varying degrees in different cars. A good 6 speed auto tranny would have probably returned as much if not more fuel savings and a shifting transmission going thru it's progression of gears is far more acceptable than the on again off again surging that VCM produces.
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Re: [rkirchoff]
by tallman1
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Jan 29, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Jan 29, 2009 5:05 am)
I'm not going to discuss the merits or otherwise of VCM. Some are unhappy with it (there's a VCM thread around here describing the complaints) while others have no problems.
However, for those who might read these messages, I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression about Honda hiding the fact that the Accord V6 comes with VCM. They are quite proud of it, in fact.
On their website-- When you click on the Accord, you get this page:
Honda Accord
Under the heading "Powerful", VCM is the second bullet.
The brochure has a whole page (p.11) dedicated to VCM and how it works. It has pictures and everything.
Accord Brochure
Fortunately, people here have great forums to help them to do additional research besides what any carmaker might offer through advertising, what is on their website, or through written info.
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- #794 of 1114
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by rkirchoff
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Jan 29, 2009 (8:49 am)
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I've yet to see any Honda commercials revealing the VCM crap. FYI, my 08 honda has a 5speed auto...not a 6 speed auto. It is not as responsive as the 04 and it does not handle as well as the 04 nor does it get as good mileage as the 04 accord v6. Screw Honda!
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Re: [rkirchoff]
by thegraduate
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Jan 29, 2009 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Jan 29, 2009 5:05 am)
Sorry, I fail to see how it's Honda's fault for not knowing what you were buying, or for taking a through test-drive. They advertise their VCM everywhere, as tallman pointed out. Also, if its on the window-sticker, it should be common-sense that the salesperson shouldn't have to itemize each particular detail listed there.
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Re: [rkirchoff]
by jhinsc
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Jan 29, 2009 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Jan 29, 2009 8:49 am)
We get the fact you're unhappy about the "eco" thing, but how is it Honda's fault that you didn't know about it? They make no attempt to hide it, in fact they advertise on their websites and in print ad's and on sites like Edmunds and others. It existed in the previous model Accord Hybrid, the previous and current Pilot, the current Odyssey, and now the current model Accord. 
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Re: 2008/9 Brake Noise [branders]
by mwest75
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Jan 30, 2009 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: branders (Jan 28, 2009 8:56 am)
Branders, thank you very, very much for posting your information here. My wife and I leased an '09 Accord back in September and have had the exact same problem with the brakes since November. After two trips to Honda, they did the same thing with rotors and pads that you described and it was only a temp fix (also as you described). At this point we're fed up and plan to follow your lead in contacting the Service Manager at our dealership and ultimately the District Manager as you did. How did you manage to get the District Manager's contact info by the way?
Once again thank you for posting your dilemma and if I have any luck in finding/gaining a solution, I'll certainly share it.
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Re: oil change [Lornals]
by edk57
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Feb 02, 2009 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: Lornals (Jan 28, 2009 9:53 pm)
My 2008 Accord EX-L V6 burns and consumes one quart of Oil per 1000 mile. There Technical experts state that is Normal. Also, the brakes on this car has a squeaky noise when cold and the dashboard get filled with white residue from the heat/AC vents. I definitely don’t recommend this car to anyone.
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Re: oil change [edk57]
by rbbrick
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Feb 03, 2009 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: edk57 (Feb 02, 2009 7:49 pm)
Regarding the oil consumption, your technical experts are plain WRONG. I have the same problem, I have escalated this issue with Honda America, Area Honda Rep and Dealer Service Mgr. The process is you need to request an oil consumption test for several 1000 mile cycles and if your car uses 1000 quart per thousand or more they must FIX IT. My car is going in to have the short block replaced today. It appears to be a ring problem on a few motors since only a few customers have had this experience. Honda acceptable specifications for oil consumption are 1 qt per 1000 but close to that they must do something for you. Finally I have noticed that the older my oil is the more it consumes, after a oil change it degrades from 1200m per qt, to <1000m per quart so you have to do at least 3 or 4 thousand mile tests with the same oil in place. Roger
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Re: oil change [rbbrick]
by edk57
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Feb 03, 2009 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: rbbrick (Feb 03, 2009 6:40 am)
Thank you for a very helpful reply. I will make my dealer re-do the oil consumption test for several thousands miles as you recommended, and I will let them know that Honda is fixing engines due to ring problems... please post any future progress on your engine and I’ll do the same. Again thanks a million.
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Re: 2008/9 Brake Noise [mwest75]
by keitha3
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Feb 03, 2009 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: mwest75 (Jan 30, 2009 7:54 am)
When did the noise first begin? I have about 5K on my Accord with no noise yet, but I have had that squeal on a previous Accord and it drove me nuts. Any others having this problem on the '09's. I'll definitely be more than peeved if it becomes a problem with mine.
You guys have a right to complain...
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