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Re: 2008/9 Brake Noise [branders]
by canddmeyer
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Jan 28, 2009 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: branders (Jan 28, 2009 8:56 am)
I'd recommend giving Honda a chance to fix this. Sure, I wouldn't be happy about it, but at least they've identified a problem and are willing to address it, unlike the poor folks who have VCM/ECO issues.
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Re: [tallman1]
by thegraduate
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Jan 28, 2009 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jan 28, 2009 12:29 pm)
I respectfully agree with tallman. I imagine it is right on the window-sticker, too (powertrain information is usually the first thing listed). Spending that much, I'd read as much literature on the vehicle (reviews, the sticker, brochures) as possible.
Can't go back in time though, so best of luck; sorry about the situation.
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Re: oil change [tparikh]
by Lornals
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Jan 28, 2009 (9:53 pm)
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Replying to: tparikh (Oct 30, 2007 6:15 am)
I am in the market for a new car and was seriously thinking about an 09 Accord EX-L (V-6). However, today I heard a (potentially) disturbing comment about high oil consumption. Can anyone tell me if this is, in fact, a problem? I'm aware that new engines have a 'breaking in' period, but I don't know for how long this period should last. I'm hoping to keep whatever car I purchase for a very long time, but it has to be known for relatively low maintenance costs, upkeep, and reliability. Comments???
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Re: oil change [Lornals]
by dpmeersman
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Jan 29, 2009 (2:33 am)
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Replying to: Lornals (Jan 28, 2009 9:53 pm)
My 08 EX-L V6 has been very reliable, very low maintenance cost and has required the addition of 2 quarts of oil over and above regular oil changes. The Maintenance Minder suggests oil changes based on my driving style, every 7,500 miles and I've had to add a quart of oil  6,000 miles & 12,000 miles. 16,500 miles currently on the odometer.
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by rkirchoff
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Jan 29, 2009 (5:05 am)
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FYI, The salesman and Honda should have given me some sort of brochure or informed me of this crappy eco thingie. They didn't offer and they sure as heck did not advertise it and have yet to advertise the fact that ECO exists on any models. I had seat problems in the beginning and tried to get honda to help fix it but they more or less laughed at me. So screw HONDA!
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Re: [rkirchoff]
by dpmeersman
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Jan 29, 2009 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Jan 29, 2009 5:05 am)
There have been television commercials touting Honda's VCM, it's mentioned in all reviews dealing with the V6 versions, the brochure from the dealership mentions it etc,etc. A little due diligence on your part before shelling out $25-28,000 on your Honda or any other car, was in order. Having said that, VCM is noticeable and by varying degrees in different cars. A good 6 speed auto tranny would have probably returned as much if not more fuel savings and a shifting transmission going thru it's progression of gears is far more acceptable than the on again off again surging that VCM produces.
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Re: [rkirchoff]
by tallman1
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Jan 29, 2009 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Jan 29, 2009 5:05 am)
I'm not going to discuss the merits or otherwise of VCM. Some are unhappy with it (there's a VCM thread around here describing the complaints) while others have no problems.
However, for those who might read these messages, I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression about Honda hiding the fact that the Accord V6 comes with VCM. They are quite proud of it, in fact.
On their website-- When you click on the Accord, you get this page:
Honda Accord
Under the heading "Powerful", VCM is the second bullet.
The brochure has a whole page (p.11) dedicated to VCM and how it works. It has pictures and everything.
Accord Brochure
Fortunately, people here have great forums to help them to do additional research besides what any carmaker might offer through advertising, what is on their website, or through written info.
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by rkirchoff
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Jan 29, 2009 (8:49 am)
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I've yet to see any Honda commercials revealing the VCM crap. FYI, my 08 honda has a 5speed auto...not a 6 speed auto. It is not as responsive as the 04 and it does not handle as well as the 04 nor does it get as good mileage as the 04 accord v6. Screw Honda!
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Re: [rkirchoff]
by thegraduate
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Jan 29, 2009 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Jan 29, 2009 5:05 am)
Sorry, I fail to see how it's Honda's fault for not knowing what you were buying, or for taking a through test-drive. They advertise their VCM everywhere, as tallman pointed out. Also, if its on the window-sticker, it should be common-sense that the salesperson shouldn't have to itemize each particular detail listed there.
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Re: [rkirchoff]
by jhinsc
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Jan 29, 2009 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: rkirchoff (Jan 29, 2009 8:49 am)
We get the fact you're unhappy about the "eco" thing, but how is it Honda's fault that you didn't know about it? They make no attempt to hide it, in fact they advertise on their websites and in print ad's and on sites like Edmunds and others. It existed in the previous model Accord Hybrid, the previous and current Pilot, the current Odyssey, and now the current model Accord. 
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