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Re: One more thing . . . . [bug4] by mmaxemow
Oct 02, 2008 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: bug4 (Oct 02, 2008 7:19 am)

so far i only see 2 TSB's on the accord:
 
Vehicle: 2008 Honda Accord
 
Summary:
DRIVER'S DOOR INTERMITTENTLY WON'T OPEN ON ACCORD 4 DOOR VEHICLES L4 AND V6. ( NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10025483 )
 
Vehicle: 2008 Honda Accord
 
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LOAD CARRYING CAPACITY REDUCED LABEL FOR ALL HONDA VEHICLES. ( NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10025523 )
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Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord by sg101
Oct 02, 2008 (11:39 am)
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Does anyone know of a class-action lawsuit against Honda for their cheap paint job on the 1998 - 2002 accord models? I've noticed with all dark colored accords for those years are oxidizing on the roofs and trunks -- mine as well. I have to keep my car for a couple of more years, and I really didn't want to repaint it, but it looks horrible.
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Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [sg101] by mikefm58
Oct 02, 2008 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: sg101 (Oct 02, 2008 11:39 am)

You want to sue someone for an alleged bad paint job on a 6-10 year old vehicle? Maybe it was the sun that did it, so you should sue the sun. Or maybe you can in fact sue Honda because they didn't tell you not to park in the sun. Or maybe it was the alien space ship, sue them.
 
If there was some class action lawsuit out there, you'd get a penny on the dollar and the lawyers would get the rest.
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Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [mikefm58] by thegraduate
Oct 02, 2008 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Oct 02, 2008 6:31 pm)

To be fair, it is a rare occasion I see a dark green Accord from 1998-2002 that does NOT have paint peeling from the roof. Other dark colored Accords from this era have this issue as well.
 
My 1996's roof has no such signs of paint peeling, etc, but many newer Accords from Gen VI sure do.
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Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [thegraduate] by elroy5
Oct 03, 2008 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 02, 2008 7:59 pm)

I've seen many cars and trucks from that time period with the oxidation problem (Corsica's Nissan trucks, etc.). I think they (automakers) had to stop using a certain chemical (EPA), and as a result many cars looked like they had sun burn. I had a Nissan truck that was afflicted with the skin disease. If the problem had been brought to the attention of the automaker sooner (in warranty) they probably would have repainted it, but on a 10 year old car, not a chance.
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Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [elroy5] by mrbill1957
Oct 03, 2008 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Oct 03, 2008 1:13 pm)

To add to your (EPA) comment, It's my understanding the auto industry had to replace ALL solvent based paints with water based paints. The switch may have produced a lesser quality paint, but it's something we may be stuck with until that auto paint manufacturers improve the water based paints (if they can)
 
Mrbill
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Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [mrbill1957] by gyusher
Oct 03, 2008 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: mrbill1957 (Oct 03, 2008 2:35 pm)

The switch may have produced a lesser quality paint, but it's something we may be stuck with until that auto paint manufacturers improve the water based paints (if they can)

 
 The newer WR formulas actually started long before 1998-2000. . . Also you will find that these newer coatings are superior by far to the ones they replaced.
 
The problems you are experiencing most likely were in the application process rather than the coating itself. Not knowing exactly what the problem is I couldn't even guess but I will say that it could be any number of things including a bad batch to problems with preperation, application, acid rain, equipment or just a hung over painter which is kinda unlikely since it was most likely a robot.
 
I work in a labratory for one of the biggest paint companies in the world. Part of my job is testing some of these coatings. I've worked in this business for about 40 years. I'm here to tell you that applied properly and on spec the coatings are as good or better than they have ever been.
 
Not to say that the "New Rules" haven't made it much tougher than it should be however.
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Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [gyusher] by mrbill1957
Oct 03, 2008 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: gyusher (Oct 03, 2008 4:32 pm)

Glad to hear that the newer paints should be as good. That's why I used "may" in my comments, just in case.
 
The one negative comment I have is with the level of "orange peel" in the paint. Hondas used to have one of the smoothest, glossiest paint jobs of any manufacturer. Now what I see is equal to the rest, but not better. My old 88 Accord (with paint equal to my Dad's old 80 Accord) looked far better when parked next to my 04 Accord. Is this fault of Honda, or is it from the switch to water based paints?
 
Mrbill
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Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [mrbill1957] by gyusher
Oct 03, 2008 (11:27 pm)
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Replying to: mrbill1957 (Oct 03, 2008 4:54 pm)

The one negative comment I have is with the level of "orange peel" in the paint.
 
I agree. . . The other day on TV no less was a comercial with a closeup of a new Corvette. I couldn't believe the level of OP. New Caddys, Mercs, on and on it's terrible I know.
 
My 08 Accord coupe (Red) has plenty as well but no where near as bad as I see every day.
 
From my point of view as a painter which I'm no expert even though I've worked in this field for 40 years there are kids out there that put me to shame. Anyway I have noticed how hard it is to let these newer coatings 'flow' without sagging or running. 'Color Sanding' is almost a necessity anymore for a 'perfect' paint job.
 
Sorry to drift OT . . . Now back to the topic at hand.
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Re: Buy Backs [gyusher] by sky16
Oct 04, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: gyusher (Oct 02, 2008 12:04 am)

Thanks for responding back to my question I really appreciate it; thus, this is the first time I have had so many problems within the first year of owning a honda. They said they will have my car back to me this Monday and were not able to get the car to me yesterday since they could not get the part they needed in to fix the problem. When I pick the car up on Monday I will have had the rental car for seven days. With the first fix and now the second fix I have a total of 9 days in the dealership shop for the same problem. I have been working with the dealer and told them I realize they are trying to do everything to resolve the problem which is a possibly a manufacturing/design flaw in the manual gearbox/transmission. I feel like Wilde Honda has done the best that they can do given the situation and I have let them know my frustrations with having so many problems with a car that is $32K. I asked them yesterday how much they would give me on a trade in and they advised that the best they could do is $22K. I really do not want to have to have them buy my car back if this is a lemon since I have added $600 in extras to the car such as door side molding, interior lighting kit and tinted windows. Also I already have an attachment to car since it has been a part of my life for coming up on one year. I called the service department and spoke with the service manager and he is willing to ride in the car with me when I pick it up along with driving it along with another service manager so I feel like they want me to be happy with the product as well. Anyway I will let you know how it goes and hopefully the fix this time in the dealership is the last one.
 
Can you explain to me when you had to deal with the lemon law why it was painful? Did you have to get an attorney to handle it or did the dealership work with you on this? How much out of pocket expense did this cost you? title? etc.....
 
Let me know when you have a free minute and again thanks for taking the time to respond to my current frustrating experience.
 
Signed
 
3rd and 4th Gear Popping Accord Coupe v6EXL

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