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#673 of 1615 Re: 2008 ACCORD V/6 NAV ...LEATHER ELECTRIAL PROBLEMS [buttdonkey]
Oct 01, 2008 (5:12 pm)
How long did it take to get Honda to give you a new car when you were having problems?
I have an Accord V6 manual transmission EXL with navigation and have now had the car in the shop for the second time and will have been without the car for a total of 6 days. When I got the car it never went into 3rd gear smoothly and the dealer told me the problem would go away after 10,000 miles which of course it did not and they took the car in to replace the gearbox. Then I picked the car up and had a hard time getting it into first gear which got better over a 5 day period on the 6th day there was noise each time a shifted into another gear and towards the end of day 6 it was starting to occasionaly kick out of fourth gear on its own. I barely got the car to the dealer on day 7 and now they have the car for another 4 days checking out the transmission to try to fix the problem. This is rather frustrating being without my car when it is suppose to be a precision car. I had a 1998 prelude for 45,000 miles for 3 years and never had any problems with it so I am rather bummed about Honda's 2008 Accord any suggestions when to ask for a new Honda?
#674 of 1615 Re: 2008 Accord EXLV-6 Man Transmission problems already?! [frenchman777]
Oct 01, 2008 (6:09 pm)
Whatever happened with your transmission did they give you a new transmission? are you having the same problems? I had an Acura 2001 3.2 TL for 7 years and they gave me a loaner car for 1 month while they replaced the transmission at 50,000 miles. I started driving the car to work one morning and the car would not shift out of second gear to third gear. Acura then extended the warranty to 10 years or 100,000 miles since they said they fixed the problem with this transmission at the time the horsepower was 225. I bought a 2008 accord coupe 6 speed manual transmission with navigation and have had the following problems. Since I have had the car for almost a year come 11/2/08 the shifting from second gear into 3rd was never the smooth est since it would sometimes kick out of 3rd gear or was hard to get into 3rd gear smoothly then last week the dealer replaced the gearbox and advised that this was a problem note in some of the manual shift accords. The day I picked up the car it worked better into 3rd gear but was at first hard to put into 1st gear and reverse but became easier overtime. By the end of the week on day number 6 when I shifted into 4th gear it would kick out of 4th gear into neutral on its own which was very unsettling along with making a whining sound from 1st to 2nd to 3rd to 4th 5th but not 6th gear. I drove the car the next morning to the dealer and barely made it there. Wilde Honda in Waukesha had the car for two days the first time and gave me a PT Cruiser from Enterprise which I advised the dealer was a piece of junk not to mention is only 2 out of 5 on a side impact crash test (pretty unsafe) so this time I requested anything but a Chrysler and was given a Mazda 3 which is much better but now they advised they will have my car for 4 days since they have to completely take the transmission apart to find out the problem. Now each time I have had the complimentary rental car from enterprise I have had to pick up the $18 insurance to cover for loss of rental which means if someone hits me and wrecks the car and I do not have this coverage I could be charged by the rental place $2000 a month for loss of rental on the vehicle if it is in the shop for one month. So this experience of having my Honda in the shop is costing me $120 out of pocket expense which I am really not happy about. My car insurance company does not cover loss of rental on a rental vehicle and I did call to verify this. At this point this is my 3rd Honda. I had a Honda Prelude no problems 45,000 miles (5 speed manual), 3.2L Acura 75,000 miles replace transmission under warranty, and now this Accord that has been in the dealership mechanic garage for 6 days not happy about that at all. I really hope that HONDA wins my confidence back since I am beginning to lose faith in this product. Does the lemon law apply yet or does it take 4x to the dealer and 30 days without the car or will Honda eventually just give me a new Accord so I can have a better experience??? Please respond when you have a free minute.
Oct 02, 2008 (12:04 am)
For much of my life I drove 75 to 100K miles a year and bought at least one new car each year with some years buying 2 new cars. I purchased everything from Acura to VW and as fate would have it bought a few lemons along the way.
Although there was a "Lemon Law" I never had to use it. That said however I've had a few that they "bought back" before the Lemon Law kicked in. Still a very painful experience.
My advice to you is to let your dealer know how you feel. Let him know you are willing to work with him but there may come a time when it stops being a normal frustrating experience and turns into a nightmare. It's the nightmare you are trying to avoid.
Usually the dealer will work with you if he feels you are being realistic and not jumping off the cliff over a low tire or some such.
Ask him what's the procedure and let him know how you feel. You need him to want to help you. A week without your car won't do it. Also it depends greatly on just what the defect is.
Safety related defects get their attention much faster. I would think that a tranny jumping out of gear would be safety related.
#676 of 1615 Re: One more thing . . . . [sky16]
Oct 02, 2008 (7:19 am)
sky16 -- sorry I wasn't more specific in my post. The engine update was on my 4 cylinder, automatic transmission 08 EX-L Accord. I'm no sure if there is any issue with v6 models.
A "TSB" is a "technical service bulletin." TSBs are posted to all Honda dealerships. They are NOT recalls, but generally identify common problems that a car company is seeing across an entire vehicle model. There are some places on the web where you can find a list of TSBs for certain models of cars - although they aren't generally released on any public database (that I know of).
If you come in with a complaint on a car, the dealership often first goes to the TSBs to see if it is a common problem to which the manufacturer has identified a solution. It could be anything from a rattling door panel to an engine tuning issue. I think it never hurts to ask your dealer about recent TSBs and specifically ask them to check your car. When I mentioned the TSB for slow acceleration to my dealer, he looked at me kind of annoyed and told me that all new Hondas had received the engine timing fix before being sold. Of course, later, he admitted that mine had "some how" not received that update. The squeeky wheel gets the greese!
#677 of 1615 Re: One more thing . . . . [bug4]
Oct 02, 2008 (10:45 am)
so far i only see 2 TSB's on the accord:
Vehicle: 2008 Honda Accord
DRIVER'S DOOR INTERMITTENTLY WON'T OPEN ON ACCORD 4 DOOR VEHICLES L4 AND V6. ( NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10025483 )
Vehicle: 2008 Honda Accord
LOAD CARRYING CAPACITY REDUCED LABEL FOR ALL HONDA VEHICLES. ( NHTSA ITEM NUMBER - 10025523 )
#678 of 1615 Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord
Oct 02, 2008 (11:39 am)
Does anyone know of a class-action lawsuit against Honda for their cheap paint job on the 1998 - 2002 accord models? I've noticed with all dark colored accords for those years are oxidizing on the roofs and trunks -- mine as well. I have to keep my car for a couple of more years, and I really didn't want to repaint it, but it looks horrible.
#679 of 1615 Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [sg101]
Oct 02, 2008 (6:31 pm)
You want to sue someone for an alleged bad paint job on a 6-10 year old vehicle? Maybe it was the sun that did it, so you should sue the sun. Or maybe you can in fact sue Honda because they didn't tell you not to park in the sun. Or maybe it was the alien space ship, sue them.
If there was some class action lawsuit out there, you'd get a penny on the dollar and the lawyers would get the rest.
#680 of 1615 Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [mikefm58]
Oct 02, 2008 (7:59 pm)
To be fair, it is a rare occasion I see a dark green Accord from 1998-2002 that does NOT have paint peeling from the roof. Other dark colored Accords from this era have this issue as well.
My 1996's roof has no such signs of paint peeling, etc, but many newer Accords from Gen VI sure do.
#681 of 1615 Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [thegraduate]
Oct 03, 2008 (1:13 pm)
I've seen many cars and trucks from that time period with the oxidation problem (Corsica's Nissan trucks, etc.). I think they (automakers) had to stop using a certain chemical (EPA), and as a result many cars looked like they had sun burn. I had a Nissan truck that was afflicted with the skin disease. If the problem had been brought to the attention of the automaker sooner (in warranty) they probably would have repainted it, but on a 10 year old car, not a chance.
#682 of 1615 Re: Paint Oxidizing Problem with 2000 Accord [elroy5]
Oct 03, 2008 (2:35 pm)
To add to your (EPA) comment, It's my understanding the auto industry had to replace ALL solvent based paints with water based paints. The switch may have produced a lesser quality paint, but it's something we may be stuck with until that auto paint manufacturers improve the water based paints (if they can)