Last post on Jun 06, 2013 at 1:46 PM
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Honda Accord, Sedan
#1584 of 1608 Re: To keep, or not to keep ... [dpmeersman]
Jan 04, 2013 (5:59 pm)
Interesting article. It doesn't say which kind the 2013 Accord uses though. It may be confidential. People could get scared.
What bothers me is the fact that money moves out from what used to be a car (steering, suspension, transmission), into electronic gadgets. While I am typing this, I see at the top of this webpage "The all-new Accord" advertisment. It says: "With a standard rearview camera". Wow !!! How impressive !!! It has a camera, like any cheap cell phone I could buy at the local grocery store ! The fundamentals, like Honda legendary reliability, double wishbone suspension, etc, don't matter anymore. Only the electronic gadgets matter.
Did somebody see the "Idiocracy" movie ?
I am afraid we are going in that direction.
#1585 of 1608 Re: To keep, or not to keep ... [rodut]
Jan 05, 2013 (7:57 am)
"What bothers me is the fact that money moves out from what used to be a car (steering, suspension, transmission), into electronic gadgets. While I am typing this, I see at the top of this webpage "The all-new Accord" advertisment. It says: "With a standard rearview camera". Wow !!! How impressive !!! It has a camera, like any cheap cell phone I could buy at the local grocery store ! The fundamentals, like Honda legendary reliability, double wishbone suspension, etc, don't matter anymore. Only the electronic gadgets matter. "
THANK YOU. I was beginning to think I was the only one seeing this. It's almost like buying a bunch of electronic gadgets (that you may or may not want) with a car attached to it. I think this is one of the reasons so many of the carmakers have gone to such cheap quality interiors - they had to do it to pay for electronic toys.
#1586 of 1608 Re: To keep, or not to keep ... [wayne21]
Jan 05, 2013 (4:47 pm)
Funny idea ! Electronic gadgets with a car attached to it. You made me laugh. Priceless.
Cheapening the interiors was the first step, many years ago, when cars had just a few electronic gadgets. These days, the 2013 Accord has way too many gadgets. They needed way more money. So they cheapened the fundamentals (steering, suspension, transmission). This provided enough money to finance all the electronic toys, and also some interior improvements (the 2013 Accord interior is more luxurious than the 2012). If this continues, you may get a luxurious leather sofa, with all the imaginable electronic toys. No car though. Exactly like my living room. Comfort and toys. Static.
#1587 of 1608 Re: To keep, or not to keep ... [rodut]
Jan 08, 2013 (7:45 pm)
I have now had my 2013 Honda Accord V6 with Navi. While I get excellent mileage with the ECO button on, I tend to agree with your analysis. The most frustrating issue is that much of the technology gadgetry does not enough work properly. For example, every time I make or receive a call from my car, the car may automatically put the audio on MUTE (happens if I touch the volume control, and sometimes when I touch nothing). Additionally, the media play devices are also very unreliable and work intermittently -- especially Pandora, and the Aha media is just a joke as it is not the actual Aha media player. But worst of all, my Navigation system response is incredibly slow -- much slower than my 2010 Accord and 2006 Civic. So for all the technology and gadgetry they added, those aren't even of high quality. But my dealership says Honda knows the issues and will probably release a software update . . . we'll see.
#1588 of 1608 2008 Honda accord 6 cyl. auto, exl. required maintenance.
Jan 08, 2013 (9:25 pm)
#1589 of 1608 2008 Honda accord 6 cyl. auto, exl. required maintenance.
Jan 08, 2013 (9:25 pm)
Please tell me the required maintenance for my 43,000 mile auto.
I have had to change the brakes front and rear and have changed the brake fluid at the 2. year mark.
when is the radiator, transmission, power steering and whatever i have left out require flushing or draining and refilling? in miles? or years?
i think the manual says it will show up on the odometer screen . but i have never seen a code to tell me.
thanks in advance.
i would be happy to receive an e-mail if i am allowed to put my email address on the discussion board.
#1590 of 1608 Re: 2008 Honda accord 6 cyl. auto, exl. required maintenance. 
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 10, 2013 (7:56 am)
No, don't post your e-mail in *any* public forum!
Here's what you need to do at the 45,000 mark:
Service due at 45,000 Miles
Inspect/Adjust/Change Alignment (optional)
Inspect/Adjust/Change Inspect charging system and belts
Inspect/Adjust/Change Service front and rear brakes
Inspect/Adjust/Change Inspect hoses
Inspect/Adjust/Change Rotate and balance tires
Inspect/Adjust/Change Inspect front and rear brakes
Inspect/Adjust/Change Inspect drive shaft boots
Inspect/Adjust/Change Inspect exhaust system
Inspect/Adjust/Change System Road Test
Inspect/Adjust/Change Replace drain plug washer
Inspect/Adjust/Change Inspect and Top Up all fluid levels
Inspect/Adjust/Change Inspect tire pressure, lights, horn, and wipers
Inspect/Adjust/Change Replace engine oil and filter
For further lists/mileages, try THIS WEBSITE and click on "service and repair" and insert the mileage schedule you wish to know about.
#1591 of 1608 Re: To keep, or not to keep ... [scottcpa]
Jan 12, 2013 (7:00 am)
Interesting. I didn't know that. So they replaced sound mechanical engineering, with bug prone electronic gadgets. It's even funnier.
Finally between "To keep, or not to keep", I decided to "not to keep". I traded my old & faithful 2001 Accord, for the last 2012 manual 4-door Accord in Eastern Canada (5 states). I had to drive over 550 miles one-way to get it (no dealer in my area had any 2012 manual leftovers). It drives OK, I would say. It's a bit noisier than the 2001 though. Road noise is a bit louder (Dunlop tires ??), and at low speed (1st and 2nd gear) there is a faint whining (from the engine or the gear box, I don't know). At higher speeds either it dissapears, or it's covered by the road / wind noise. My wife was impressed. She likes it. Me too I like it. I may actually like that faint whining.
Obs: installing the manual gear shift lever turned to the right (at an ~ 30 degrees angle) is really a weird idea. I say "weird" to be polite. It really shows that the desire to change became absurd. They make changes, when absolutely no change is required. The ideal car was manufactured in the past. It's not in the future. It's a pity I cannot post here the picture of the shifter lever. When I saw it for the 1st time I asked the dealer if somebody rolled over the car, and the gear shift got bent. He said: "no, this is an improvement" ...
Jan 31, 2013 (10:44 am)
This discussion group is dead !
#1593 of 1608 Re: ??? [rodut]
Jan 31, 2013 (2:15 pm)
Maybe no one's car is having problems? Other than a new battery, mine hasn't been giving me grief....(fingers crossed)