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1122 messages, Last post on Nov 20, 2009 at 8:31 PM
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Replying to: dpmeersman (Jul 27, 2009 1:45 pm)
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Replying to: jhinsc (Jul 27, 2009 2:46 pm)  Can you say sludge?
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Replying to: jhinsc (Jul 27, 2009 2:36 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 27, 2009 5:02 pm) My point was that a drop in oil could possibly mean you are getting less bypass of other fluids coming into the oil from the rings and seals. Consuming a quart every 6 - 8k mile is far from excessive oil consumption. I change my oil when the maintenance minder reaches 15% oil life. I did the same in my previous 06 EXL V6, although the it would only go about 7k mile before reaching 15%. You don't have to worry about sludge these days if you use a name brand high quality oil. My 07 Chev Avalanche goes more than 10k miles between oil changes. As long as you change the oil prior to reaching 0% oil life, you're covered under warranty. There is a caveat; if you don't drive that much, you need to change out the oil every 12 months. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 27, 2009 7:49 pm) I don't think the price is high. I think I'm getting my money's worth in other ways. I use the dealer for peace of mind and because it's convenient for me, and I'm assured they will replace the little gasket at the oil drain plug. The gasket needs to be replaced and not reused as once it's compressed from the first use you can't reuse it and you won't get good seal. Reputable auto repair centers should be aware of this, but if you get an inexperienced technician who doesn't know, you can either have a oil leak or they will over-torque the oil drain plug to insure a good seal with the old gasket, but could strip the threads in the oil pan. The dealer uses a torque wrench when reinstalling the drain plug - does your Big Tire place do so? I also know the dealer will check other things like brakes, etc, and they don't try to sell me on other unneeded stuff like a new air filter, transmission flushes, etc., until they are really needed. My previous Accord never saw any maintenance other than oil changes/tire rotations during the 42k miles I owned it. I do change the air filters myself at 25k miles.
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Replying to: jhinsc (Jul 28, 2009 3:21 am) Wish I could say the same. My dealer always comes up with a $400 repair whenever I take my '96 Accord in for service. I take it to my local mechanic who tells me the truth. I'm three grand away from 200k in that car, and have saved about $1,000 in the last 18 months by not doing what my dealer told me was "necessary" to prolong the life of the car. I do maintenance (4,000 miles OCIs, 30k mile air filters, trans service at every 60k, timing belt at every 90k, etc), and repairs when something breaks. The dealer wanted $850 to do the timing belt and water pump; my mechanic (not Big Ten, but a collision and repair shop I've used for 5 years) charged $478 out the door. I have inspections of the brakes done when I ask them to be done - no charge at Big Ten. The dealer wants the "Gold Package" oil change to inspect brakes, among other things. That's a $79 o/c and tire rotation, and I then have to hope the dealer is telling me the truth (which I've found is the case about half the time). They're supposed to top off all fluids, etc. Last time I raised a stink over my washer fluid still being empty when I got in to leave the dealer. If they leave out something so cheap, what more costly items are they saving their money on by skipping, but charging me for? Yes, there are other dealers, but none within a half-hour drive of my home, except this one, ten minutes away. My mechanic is a 3 minute drive; Big Ten, 5 minutes. Anyway, I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. It appears we just have very different service departments.  I didn't intend to get on a rant; my dealer just ticks me off sometimes!
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 28, 2009 7:57 pm) |
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Replying to: jhinsc (Jul 28, 2009 3:21 am) I don't believe they actually use a torque wrench to install the drain plug. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even look at the brakes. How would you know? Any car will go to 42k miles, with very little maintenance. It's when you get to 142k miles that the lack of maintenance early on will show up.
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 29, 2009 1:49 pm) Well, you can believe what you want. All I know it's stated on my final work order the torque amount used to tighten the drain plug. You're right, I dont' know if they actually check the brakes - but that's what I pay them for. I don't stand over their shoulder watching their every move and I have to trust them to do what they say the will do. They also always call me the following day to make sure everything was done to my satisfaction. My main reason for posting was not about the oil change, but about the pre-mature rear brake wear issue some have been having. Again, the brake check they perform is on the short list of items for their oil change service, and I have to believe they do actually check them. It's very easy to do since they have the wheels off during rotation.
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Replying to: jhinsc (Jul 30, 2009 7:45 am) I guess my doctor could pretend to check my cholesterol level. How would I know?? 
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