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I saw the 2009 Matrix on television (Motorweek). The new styling is nice but I still like the original design, too. I have a 2003 XR with automatic. I'm not liking what I'm reading about the 2009 Matrix, though. I'm not happy about the decreased fuel economy with the mid-range model due to the 2.4L engine. Apparently, the new model is heavier, too, which I consider a design failure. According to Toyota's own website, I can get a base 1.8L with the options that I really want (automatic, power locks, remote entry, power windows). I wonder how hard it will be to find this package in the real world, though. I'm assuming that the four-speed automatic has overdrive but I couldn't find any mention of it so far. Also, according to Toyota's site, the base 1.8L model does not have the fold-down front passenger seat! Why? I use this feature in my current Matrix all the time for carrying longer loads. I'm also disappointed that the tie-downs are no longer on rails. And no liftglass? The liftglass was a great way to access cargo without letting my dog out of the car at the same time or to carry extra-long items. I'm only seeing two improvements: telescoping steering wheel (nice) and doors that lock automatically after the car is in motion (does anyone really care about this feature?). I don't really consider the 2.4L engine an improvement since it's not optional for the mid-range S. I bought my 2003 Matrix for two reasons: cargo and fuel economy. It didn't hurt that I like the way it looks. The 2009 Matrix appears to be inferior where it counts even though it looks nice. I guess I'll be holding on to my 2003 for a bit longer. Hopefully, Toyota will make some changes in the new Matrix soon. If not, I may have to start looking elsewhere for my next car. |
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Most of the cars in inventory all included an auto transmission, power package, the all weather package and cruise control and the sport ones included the moonroof and upgraded radio. The dealership said that's how Toyota was sending them out. But since these models have only been on sale since February maybe they will start taking factory orders. I have never bought a Toyota before so I don't know if they are real reluctant to do factory orders (previous cars were Saturns) and it would take 2 months. I did only go to two different dealerships though, but they had there inventory listed online. Some of the base ones were being sold before they got to the dealership...
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Replying to: bonesjustice (Apr 13, 2008 6:58 am) It really needs a 5th gear if you plan to drive it at highway speeds very much. |
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Apr 13, 2008 7:55 am) It is only the base models with the 1.8 and the models with AWD that have a 4-speed auto. |
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Replying to: bonesjustice (Apr 13, 2008 6:58 am)
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Replying to: matrixgirl09 (Apr 13, 2008 7:36 am) If you are in a rush to get a car I guess they believe that you will take what they have to offer. I wanted what I wanted and I have been waiting almost 8 weeks for my auto; but when I thought about it, I actually waited 8 months. |
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Replying to: loudog2 (Apr 13, 2008 4:55 pm) Just so you know, the only transmission available for the AWD Matrix is the 4-speed auto. No 5 speed, either manual or auto, is available.
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 13, 2008 10:47 pm)
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Replying to: loudog2 (Apr 14, 2008 4:06 am) |
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I did my research/building online then called up a dealer close to me. It looked like they had what I wanted in inventory, but the options weren't listed on dealer website. When I called, I wanted to see the T Matrix Base 1.8L, but then confirmed that moonroof wasn't an option for the base. After some discussion, I decided that looking on the lot(s) was the best way to look at inventory. I settled on the 2.4 sport version with Cruise Control, All Weather Guard, and Power moonroof. I couldn't afford AWD (which I didn't feel the need for anyway). LIKES: Auto w/shift up down for those hills, Tilt & telescopic steering wheel, fold flat rear & fold flat front passenger seats, break away mirrors, pep, sound system is bass heavy, nice change for me, adaptor for mp3, 12V in front, moonroof, chime to remind you of key in ignition, night rearview mirror (I CAN SEE, FINALLY). DISLIKES: Haven't had the car a week and still can't get the doors to stay locked when shifting into park (followed all the instructions in manual, may have to pick up phone to dealer soon). No locking compartments in car. No extra 12V or 115V outlets in back. Currently difficult to find decent add-ons (full carpet when back seats down, other parts accessories too when searching by year) will have to custom make a carpet myself for now. Also wish I had upgraded to include hands free phone, steering wheel controls, etc. Would love to get advice on the door locks. By the way, they all lock the moment I put the car in gear, doesn't need to be moving. Once I shift into park, they all unlock, UGH! (once again, I did read the instructions pages 29 to 32 and my spouse tried it as well).
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