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re:alarm system [matrixgirl09] by diva2008
Apr 13, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: matrixgirl09 (Apr 13, 2008 6:10 am)

Thank you again for your imput. Point taken
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Disappointed so far by bonesjustice
Apr 13, 2008 (6:58 am)
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I saw the 2009 Matrix on television (Motorweek). The new styling is nice but I still like the original design, too. I have a 2003 XR with automatic.
 
I'm not liking what I'm reading about the 2009 Matrix, though. I'm not happy about the decreased fuel economy with the mid-range model due to the 2.4L engine. Apparently, the new model is heavier, too, which I consider a design failure.
 
According to Toyota's own website, I can get a base 1.8L with the options that I really want (automatic, power locks, remote entry, power windows). I wonder how hard it will be to find this package in the real world, though. I'm assuming that the four-speed automatic has overdrive but I couldn't find any mention of it so far.
 
Also, according to Toyota's site, the base 1.8L model does not have the fold-down front passenger seat! Why? I use this feature in my current Matrix all the time for carrying longer loads. I'm also disappointed that the tie-downs are no longer on rails. And no liftglass? The liftglass was a great way to access cargo without letting my dog out of the car at the same time or to carry extra-long items.
 
I'm only seeing two improvements: telescoping steering wheel (nice) and doors that lock automatically after the car is in motion (does anyone really care about this feature?). I don't really consider the 2.4L engine an improvement since it's not optional for the mid-range S.
 
I bought my 2003 Matrix for two reasons: cargo and fuel economy. It didn't hurt that I like the way it looks. The 2009 Matrix appears to be inferior where it counts even though it looks nice. I guess I'll be holding on to my 2003 for a bit longer. Hopefully, Toyota will make some changes in the new Matrix soon. If not, I may have to start looking elsewhere for my next car.
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re: should be easy to find power locks and windows by matrixgirl09
Apr 13, 2008 (7:36 am)
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Most of the cars in inventory all included an auto transmission, power package, the all weather package and cruise control and the sport ones included the moonroof and upgraded radio. The dealership said that's how Toyota was sending them out. But since these models have only been on sale since February maybe they will start taking factory orders. I have never bought a Toyota before so I don't know if they are real reluctant to do factory orders (previous cars were Saturns) and it would take 2 months.
 
I did only go to two different dealerships though, but they had there inventory listed online. Some of the base ones were being sold before they got to the dealership...
 
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Re: Disappointed so far [bonesjustice] by jaxs1
Apr 13, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: bonesjustice (Apr 13, 2008 6:58 am)

They Matrix and Vibe don't have much of an overdrive 4th gear. It revs pretty fast at freeway speeds even compared to the same powertrain in the new Corolla.
It really needs a 5th gear if you plan to drive it at highway speeds very much.
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Re: Disappointed so far [jaxs1] by nippononly
Apr 13, 2008 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Apr 13, 2008 7:55 am)

Of course, the S and XRS automatic models have the 2.4L engine standard and therefore the 5-speed auto from the Camry.
 
It is only the base models with the 1.8 and the models with AWD that have a 4-speed auto.
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Re: Disappointed so far [bonesjustice] by loudog2
Apr 13, 2008 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: bonesjustice (Apr 13, 2008 6:58 am)

Yes the MPG'S are down a little. Compared to our old 2004 XR AWD, I think the 2.4l S AWD is a lot better. Now we have abs standard, vsc, traction control. side airbags, 5 speed tran and a little more hp. So there are more than 2 improvements. If I'm not mistaken, the abs brakes was only availible with the xr awd in 2004. I might be wrong.
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re: should be easy to find power locks and windows [matrixgirl09] by diva2008
Apr 13, 2008 (8:49 pm)
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Replying to: matrixgirl09 (Apr 13, 2008 7:36 am)

I had to purchase my 09' Matrix S AWD in Massachusetts in order to get the options I wanted. I initially went to purchase the car in New Jersey, but was told that the options I wanted were NOT being offered in my region and that Toyota were NOT taking factory orders. I had never heard of anything like this before. When I went to build my Matrix on the internet I put my brother's zip code in and this is how I found out that Massachusetts offered what I want. I think that it is ridiculous that "regions" decide what I should have in my auto as the consumer.
 
If you are in a rush to get a car I guess they believe that you will take what they have to offer. I wanted what I wanted and I have been waiting almost 8 weeks for my auto; but when I thought about it, I actually waited 8 months.
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Re: Disappointed so far [loudog2] by nippononly
Apr 13, 2008 (10:47 pm)
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Replying to: loudog2 (Apr 13, 2008 4:55 pm)

"I think the 2.4l S AWD is a lot better. Now we have abs standard, vsc, traction control. side airbags, 5 speed tran and a little more hp"
 
Just so you know, the only transmission available for the AWD Matrix is the 4-speed auto. No 5 speed, either manual or auto, is available.
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Re: Disappointed so far [nippononly] by loudog2
Apr 14, 2008 (4:06 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Apr 13, 2008 10:47 pm)

Your right. I stand corrected. No 5 spd tran. But everything else there is still a improvement. I forgot to mention the tire pressure monitoring system it has now.
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Re: Disappointed so far [loudog2] by nippononly
Apr 14, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: loudog2 (Apr 14, 2008 4:06 am)

Interestingly, I was just reading a blurb on the '09 Vibe, and while the auto in the AWD Vibe is still a 4-speed, it seems you can also get an AWD Vibe with the manual transmission. So for all you manual fans out there that want 5 forward speeds, the Pontiac dealer may have what you are looking for, in what is otherwise essentially the same car mechanically.

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