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#25 of 179 Partnership not Parted Re: Liftglass? [nippononly] by moparbad Nov 23, 2007 (6:32 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Nov 13, 2007 9:07 am) NUMMI is still a partnership. Matrix and Vibe are still twins. Replies to this message: nippononly (Nov 25, 2007 12:42 pm) moparbad (Nov 25, 2007 2:31 pm) nippononly (Nov 26, 2007 7:51 am)
#26 of 179 Re: Partnership not Parted Re: Liftglass? [moparbad] by nippononly Nov 25, 2007 (12:42 pm)
Replying to: moparbad (Nov 23, 2007 6:32 pm) Matrix was never built at NUMMI. Matrix and Vibe are not currently twins, as Toyota has done some minor mechanical upgrades and of course has changed the interior and the exterior cosmetically.   To rephrase the question I posed: did GM and Toyota collaborate on the second generations of thse two models? I had not heard that, so I wonder. GM has proposed offering a Vibe GT with the 260 hp turbo four from the Sky/Solstice and other GM models. There is certainly no such thing proposed for the Matrix (the XRS trim will get the larger NA engine from the Camry). Replies to this message: moparbad (Nov 25, 2007 2:31 pm) nippononly (Nov 26, 2007 7:51 am)
#27 of 179 Re: Partnership not Parted Re: Liftglass? [nippononly] by moparbad Nov 25, 2007 (2:31 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Nov 25, 2007 12:42 pm) Matrix was never built at NUMMI. Matrix and Vibe are not currently twins, as Toyota has done some minor mechanical upgrades and of course has changed the interior and the exterior cosmetically.   Corolla, Tacoma and Vibe are all produced at the Fremont NUMMI plant. Two of the vehicles coming down the lines are Toyota's with the Vibe is essentially a Toyota in GM clothing.   What mechanical upgrades does the Matrix have that the Vibe does not? Minor or major? Replies to this message: nippononly (Nov 26, 2007 7:51 am)
#28 of 179 Re: Partnership not Parted Re: Liftglass? [moparbad] by nippononly Nov 26, 2007 (7:51 am)
Replying to: moparbad (Nov 25, 2007 2:31 pm) Well of course, there was the TSB and later production change to the twilight sensor in the Matrix that the Vibe never got (headlights flicking on and off every time you went under a tree, it was really annoying in the early Matrixes, thank goodness Toyota offered a fix).   Toyota updated the internals of the manual transmissions in 2005 after there began to be reports of premature failures. Indeed, some of that is detailed in the transmission woes thread right here. Nuttin' for the Vibe.   At the auto show yesterday there were both '09 Matrix and Vibe on display, both roped off so one could not get too close. But the glass is different, as is the shape, between the two, and that's just gleaned from a quick once-over on opposite sides of the show. I think the twins have been separated for good.
#29 of 179 All new Matrix by peterrao Nov 28, 2007 (6:12 pm)
Worst looking car thus far!!
#31 of 179 PRICE by hbcorolla Nov 30, 2007 (9:20 pm)
ANY IDEAS HOW MUCH WILL THIS NEW COROLLA BE? Replies to this message: moparbad (Dec 07, 2007 4:15 pm) lkc037 (Dec 27, 2007 10:14 pm) zombietom3 (Dec 27, 2007 10:28 pm) caliberchic (Jan 01, 2008 3:33 pm) moparbad (Jan 02, 2008 3:45 pm) zombietom3 (Jan 02, 2008 3:54 pm)
#32 of 179 Re: PRICE [hbcorolla] by moparbad Dec 07, 2007 (4:15 pm)
Replying to: hbcorolla (Nov 30, 2007 9:20 pm) Matrix. Not Corolla.
#33 of 179 Re: PRICE [hbcorolla] by lkc037 Dec 27, 2007 (10:14 pm)
Replying to: hbcorolla (Nov 30, 2007 9:20 pm) The newspaper quoted the '09 Matrix at $26,000-$30,000. Replies to this message: zombietom3 (Dec 27, 2007 10:28 pm) caliberchic (Jan 01, 2008 3:33 pm) moparbad (Jan 02, 2008 3:45 pm) zombietom3 (Jan 02, 2008 3:54 pm)
#34 of 179 Re: PRICE [lkc037] by zombietom3 Dec 27, 2007 (10:28 pm)
Replying to: lkc037 (Dec 27, 2007 10:14 pm) It seems to me if they were going to make the model different enough to justify a quantum leap in pricing then they would have to call it a new model name and not present it as just a new Matrix.

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