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#21 of 179 AWD and fuel tank by moparbad Nov 04, 2007 (4:49 pm)
Is the fuel tank larger on the AWD, same size or smaller as it was on the last gen Matrix?
#22 of 179 Re: Toyota has posted some info [nilk] by irismg Nov 10, 2007 (8:33 am)
Replying to: nilk (Oct 31, 2007 10:51 am) In my opinion, that front end is ugly beyond belief. Made an unattractive car even worse.
#23 of 179 Re: Liftglass? [longleg] by longleg Nov 12, 2007 (8:36 am)
Replying to: longleg (Nov 02, 2007 3:07 pm) I think I can answer my own question: no liftglass. Pontiac's website has a preview of the '09 Vibe and clearly shows the inside of the hatchback with no hinges or struts on the rear window. Given that the Matrix has essentially the same body, it seems unlikely that the Matrix would retain the liftglass when the Vibe does not. Replies to this message: nippononly (Nov 13, 2007 9:07 am) moparbad (Nov 23, 2007 6:32 pm) nippononly (Nov 25, 2007 12:42 pm) and 2 more...
#24 of 179 Re: Liftglass? [longleg] by nippononly Nov 13, 2007 (9:07 am)
Replying to: longleg (Nov 12, 2007 8:36 am) I thought they parted ways after 2005, each taking over the evolution of their own version of the platform? If so, then stuff like the liftglass could easily be different between Vibe and Matrix. And given the fact that Toyota has just introduced liftglass on the Highlander, I can't imagine they would remove it from the Matrix for the redo. Replies to this message: moparbad (Nov 23, 2007 6:32 pm) nippononly (Nov 25, 2007 12:42 pm) moparbad (Nov 25, 2007 2:31 pm) and 1 more...
#25 of 179 Partnership not Parted Re: Liftglass? [nippononly] by moparbad Nov 23, 2007 (6:32 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Nov 13, 2007 9:07 am) NUMMI is still a partnership. Matrix and Vibe are still twins. Replies to this message: nippononly (Nov 25, 2007 12:42 pm) moparbad (Nov 25, 2007 2:31 pm) nippononly (Nov 26, 2007 7:51 am)
#26 of 179 Re: Partnership not Parted Re: Liftglass? [moparbad] by nippononly Nov 25, 2007 (12:42 pm)
Replying to: moparbad (Nov 23, 2007 6:32 pm) Matrix was never built at NUMMI. Matrix and Vibe are not currently twins, as Toyota has done some minor mechanical upgrades and of course has changed the interior and the exterior cosmetically.   To rephrase the question I posed: did GM and Toyota collaborate on the second generations of thse two models? I had not heard that, so I wonder. GM has proposed offering a Vibe GT with the 260 hp turbo four from the Sky/Solstice and other GM models. There is certainly no such thing proposed for the Matrix (the XRS trim will get the larger NA engine from the Camry). Replies to this message: moparbad (Nov 25, 2007 2:31 pm) nippononly (Nov 26, 2007 7:51 am)
#27 of 179 Re: Partnership not Parted Re: Liftglass? [nippononly] by moparbad Nov 25, 2007 (2:31 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Nov 25, 2007 12:42 pm) Matrix was never built at NUMMI. Matrix and Vibe are not currently twins, as Toyota has done some minor mechanical upgrades and of course has changed the interior and the exterior cosmetically.   Corolla, Tacoma and Vibe are all produced at the Fremont NUMMI plant. Two of the vehicles coming down the lines are Toyota's with the Vibe is essentially a Toyota in GM clothing.   What mechanical upgrades does the Matrix have that the Vibe does not? Minor or major? Replies to this message: nippononly (Nov 26, 2007 7:51 am)
#28 of 179 Re: Partnership not Parted Re: Liftglass? [moparbad] by nippononly Nov 26, 2007 (7:51 am)
Replying to: moparbad (Nov 25, 2007 2:31 pm) Well of course, there was the TSB and later production change to the twilight sensor in the Matrix that the Vibe never got (headlights flicking on and off every time you went under a tree, it was really annoying in the early Matrixes, thank goodness Toyota offered a fix).   Toyota updated the internals of the manual transmissions in 2005 after there began to be reports of premature failures. Indeed, some of that is detailed in the transmission woes thread right here. Nuttin' for the Vibe.   At the auto show yesterday there were both '09 Matrix and Vibe on display, both roped off so one could not get too close. But the glass is different, as is the shape, between the two, and that's just gleaned from a quick once-over on opposite sides of the show. I think the twins have been separated for good.
#29 of 179 All new Matrix by peterrao Nov 28, 2007 (6:12 pm)
Worst looking car thus far!!

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