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Re: Disappointed so far [remocat] by texasgirl2
Nov 27, 2008 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: remocat (Nov 27, 2008 7:31 am)

The MPG is actually not that different when you compare the engines of the Corolla and Matrix. I have an 09 Matrix S - has a 2.4L engine with about 158 HP. The Corolla XRS has the same engine size/HP and they get almost identical. My 07 Matrix had higher EPA rated MPG, BUT I got even better than what was promised. I saw it get dramatically better after about 5K miles. I am consistently getting about 27 MPG with my current Matrix - I'm at about 2K miles on it and expect to get much better than 27 MPG in a few more thousand miles. I am a HUGE fan of the Matrix, it's basically the best car in my book. Go test drive the S model, I think you will fall in love.
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Re: Disappointed so far [texasgirl2] by mantech
Nov 27, 2008 (11:31 pm)
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Replying to: texasgirl2 (Nov 27, 2008 7:06 pm)

I will love it too, that is the nature of this 2AZFE(2.4L) it's fuel effecient compare to 2.3'L of Mazda3. But Mazda 3 beat it in 0.6 sec (0-60mph) Matrix S rated 7.9secs and Mazda 3 is 7.3 secs if I'm right. The height of 3 is lower than Matrix, not sure the curb weight of 3. I'm used to be fan of Mazda but not anymore, but I'm might come back to Mazda since this 09 Matrix has very disappointing interior design and materials, well pronounced road noise in coarse pavement too. Maybe the next model year will be improved that(hopefully) I'm supposed to purchase a 2010 Matrix.
But I got 09 already.
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Re: Disappointed so far [mantech] by mantech
Dec 02, 2008 (12:13 am)
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Replying to: mantech (Nov 27, 2008 11:31 pm)

Just I put back the 55 series from 45 series, the road noise has been reduced.
One of the director of driving television said that this new 09 Matrix is quieter than his older Matrix. One thing I notice is the water splash to the body is noisier than before (when you driving in the rainy weather) Has anyone who notice that??
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2010 Matarix Update by ecotrklvr
Jan 16, 2009 (3:49 pm)
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Saw this earlier today, and thought I'd share. The 2010 Matrix is being manufactured starting this month, and all 2010 Matrix models will have VSC. Corolla as well. Source is www.donlen.com
 
Cheers.
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Will Toyota mate the new 5 sp AUTO Tran w/. the 1.8 engine? by johnxyz
Feb 26, 2009 (1:50 pm)
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Any chance that Toyota will switch up to the 5 spd auto tranny with the new 1.8 base engine in the Matrix or Yaris? I want the better FE that comes w/. the 1.8 vs. the 2.4. Thanks
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Re: Will Toyota mate the new 5 sp AUTO Tran w/. the 1.8 engine? [johnxyz] by mantech
Feb 27, 2009 (11:28 pm)
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Replying to: johnxyz (Feb 26, 2009 1:50 pm)

Maybe or not, It's possible in the next engine with 2.0L displacement (3ZRFE) will mate with 5 speed CVT. In Asia this engine 3ZRFE is using by Corolla Altis with 5sp auto CVT. rated at 147hp!. This engine is supposed to be for Matrix just leave the 1.8L (2ZRFE) for Yaris! You know this 3ZRFE has valve-matic, fuel economy is almost the same as 1.8L that uses by Corolla and Matrix.
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Road Noise: 08 vs 09 by moontom
Feb 28, 2009 (6:06 am)
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apologies for the cross post but this seems the more appropriate place for my question:
I own an 08 Matrix and like the car, except for the harsh road noise at highway speed and the equally harsh jittery feeling on rough pavement.
 
I know that goes w/ the territory of a small car, but I'm wondering whether this has been abated at all in the redesign for 09. when I testdrove the 09 it didn't seem all that much different to me.
 
so....anyone who's upgraded to the 09 from a previous Matrix: is the new one a smoother ride?
 
also wondering if there are any mods that might address this.
 
thanks in advance for any insights!
 
tm
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Re: Disappointed so far [texasgirl2] by usaf66
Mar 05, 2009 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: texasgirl2 (Nov 27, 2008 7:06 pm)

just read your post about gas miles on 09 Matrix S....I got one in Nov 08 and 90% of my driving is 55mph or better and I am lucky to average 26.mpg--it seems to lurch when starting either cold or at a stop. I have 4K on it my dealer won't talk to me because I had trouble when purchased and I contacted our state attorney general. It has been a very disappointing purchase but I'm stuck with it. Does anyone know wht the lurching could be.. would another dealer be willing to talk with me?
 
Usafrosie
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Re: Will Toyota mate the new 5 sp AUTO Tran w/. the 1.8 engine? [mantech] by johnxyz
Mar 09, 2009 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: mantech (Feb 27, 2009 11:28 pm)

mantech and nippononly - Thanks for the reply - great info. Timeline on when the US/NA gets the new 2.0 (3ZRFE) engine?
 
Also how does 'direct-injection' assist w/. fuel economy? Any engines from Toyota getting it?
 
OT - I've read that the Subaru Impreza WRX and STi really need direct injection to alleviate the subpar fuel economy (or lack thereof) those models get....
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Re: Will Toyota mate the new 5 sp AUTO Tran w/. the 1.8 engine? [johnxyz] by nippononly
Mar 09, 2009 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: johnxyz (Mar 09, 2009 6:27 am)

Also how does 'direct-injection' assist w/. fuel economy? Any engines from Toyota getting it?
 
Direct injection cools the combustion chamber, allowing them to up the compression ratio while continuing to run regular unleaded and boosting low-end torque and fuel economy while reducing emissions.
 
Just about every Lexus engine has it now that the old 4.7 V-8 is as good as gone - the SC430 and the 4Runner rebadge (GX?) may be exceptions to that.
 
I would expect the new 2.0 Valvematic engine in Japan to have it, which is why I DON'T expect Toyota to stick it in a U.S.-bound Corolla for a while yet......the Corolla in the States is all about being cheap and durable, not about being at the leading edge of its class in technology.

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