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re: Matrix sidetrack [nippononly]
by mantech
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Oct 28, 2008 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 28, 2008 5:58 pm)
Could you double check again your 07 Matrix, can't be 2600rpm at 65mph (110kph)
1ZZFE is a high revving engine. Why I can't forget these things I used to own an 07 Matrix and during that break in period I never exceed above 3000rpm. A 60mph(101kph) speed is already at 2900rpm! So please re-check it again.
My 09 Matrix (2ZRFE) revs 3000rpm at 110kph of course in 5th gear, but right now our gasoline are oxigenated that's why the MPG became lower, but still i could get 580k at 45L fill up. The 2.4L engine is a different story, It could consume 20MPG in city driving but this engine is really smooth running like a V6! 2300rpm at 100kph.
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- #157 of 179
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re: Matrix sidetrack [mantech]
by nippononly
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Oct 30, 2008 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: mantech (Oct 28, 2008 7:59 pm)
Double-checked my '07, mantech, definitely 2600 rpm at 65 mph in 5th gear. One of the reasons the '08s and older had such good mileage with the manual was fairly tall gearing for such a small engine. I was disappointed to see that mileage drop by a point for the '09 models with the 1.8.
This was the wrong time for Toyota to be engineering new models that consumed more gas than the ones they replaced.
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- #158 of 179
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re: Matrix sidetrack [nippononly]
by mantech
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Oct 31, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 30, 2008 6:31 am)
There's no difference in fuel economy Nippononly, The 09 Matrix 1.8 has wider band of torque compare to 1ZZFE, that's the only difference. Actually last summer I got 620K from a full tank of gas(mixed driving) I can't believe that 2600rpm at 65 mph in fifth gear?? maybe 6th gear if you have an XRS. Oh common..
I believe the "S", XR in Canada and XRS 2009 consumes more gas than the ones that they replaced.. Maybe this sounds make sense to you.
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- #159 of 179
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re: Matrix sidetrack [mantech]
by nippononly
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Oct 31, 2008 (10:48 pm)
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Replying to: mantech (Oct 31, 2008 10:21 am)
In the United States of America the 2008 Matrix 1.8L 5-speed was rated 27/33 mpg by the EPA.
The 2009 model is rated 26/32. Lower.
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- #160 of 179
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Re: just got one [loudog2]
by Michelk
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Nov 26, 2008 (2:50 am)
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Replying to: loudog2 (Mar 29, 2008 6:04 pm)
We picked up our 09 Matrix last night and found that with the engine running we could NOT shut off the headlights -- or even dim them. Is this normal?? Know that there is an automatic sensor for the headlights so the car probably "knew" it was nighttime, but we need to be able to dim our lights to the parking lights at night. WE want to be the ones in control of the lighting - is this phenomenon a glitch, or something standard on the vehicle?
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- #161 of 179
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Re: just got one [Michelk]
by texasgirl2
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Nov 26, 2008 (5:05 am)
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Replying to: Michelk (Nov 26, 2008 2:50 am)
It's standard on the vehicle. The lights are always on, as long as the key is in the ignition. Congratulations!
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- #162 of 179
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Re: Disappointed so far [bonesjustice]
by remocat
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Nov 27, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: bonesjustice (Apr 13, 2008 6:58 am)
For the last few weeks I've been looking to buy a Matrix, however, due to this article, I'm now on hold and looking elsewhere, eventhough I've been a toyota, honda and acura guy since 1968. Why is the gas consunption so different between a corolla and Matrix?
R
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- #163 of 179
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Re: Disappointed so far [remocat]
by texasgirl2
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Nov 27, 2008 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: remocat (Nov 27, 2008 7:31 am)
The MPG is actually not that different when you compare the engines of the Corolla and Matrix. I have an 09 Matrix S - has a 2.4L engine with about 158 HP. The Corolla XRS has the same engine size/HP and they get almost identical. My 07 Matrix had higher EPA rated MPG, BUT I got even better than what was promised. I saw it get dramatically better after about 5K miles. I am consistently getting about 27 MPG with my current Matrix - I'm at about 2K miles on it and expect to get much better than 27 MPG in a few more thousand miles. I am a HUGE fan of the Matrix, it's basically the best car in my book. Go test drive the S model, I think you will fall in love.
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- #164 of 179
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Re: Disappointed so far [texasgirl2]
by mantech
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Nov 27, 2008 (11:31 pm)
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Replying to: texasgirl2 (Nov 27, 2008 7:06 pm)
I will love it too, that is the nature of this 2AZFE(2.4L) it's fuel effecient compare to 2.3'L of Mazda3. But Mazda 3 beat it in 0.6 sec (0-60mph) Matrix S rated 7.9secs and Mazda 3 is 7.3 secs if I'm right. The height of 3 is lower than Matrix, not sure the curb weight of 3. I'm used to be fan of Mazda but not anymore, but I'm might come back to Mazda since this 09 Matrix has very disappointing interior design and materials, well pronounced road noise in coarse pavement too. Maybe the next model year will be improved that(hopefully) I'm supposed to purchase a 2010 Matrix.
But I got 09 already. 
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- #165 of 179
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Re: Disappointed so far [mantech]
by mantech
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Dec 02, 2008 (12:13 am)
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Replying to: mantech (Nov 27, 2008 11:31 pm)
Just I put back the 55 series from 45 series, the road noise has been reduced.
One of the director of driving television said that this new 09 Matrix is quieter than his older Matrix. One thing I notice is the water splash to the body is noisier than before (when you driving in the rainy weather) Has anyone who notice that??
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