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Replying to: ecotrklvr (Oct 03, 2008 7:59 pm) never said that - but you did - see your post #138. Guess because you have had some problems with a particular brand or two - guess then it follows that everyone does. It's logic, I suppose.  I only talk about how the gas we use is manufactured and distributed and the commonality of source(s) - that is where my 'logic is'. As far as my 09 Matrix 1.8 Base model, it continues to hum along quite nicely at 30 mpg overall - my wife is the one that happens to drive it, she is quite happy with it as well. It is ultimately one heckuva practical vehicle! For my part, I feel Toyota has made a mistake in how it has chosen to equip the higher trim lines with the larger engine only - I think the car does fine with the smaller engine and think that 5 mpg or so is a big sacrifice even though gas prices have eased somewhat. I didn't like the unavailability of some options that I would have been willing to pay for otherwise simply because I wanted the extra FE. 
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 06, 2008 8:37 am) I agree with you there - my 2007, of course, has the 1.8 and with a stick shift I manage 35 mpg as a running average. It is docile around town and plenty fast enough if I wind the engine out when I need the power. I think Toyota made this choice with the engines for the '09s because they are trying to push the Matrix as the smallest of the crossovers in the Toyota line, now that RAV4 has gotten so big. As such, it needs to have more power available for bigger loads and light-duty towing. Of course, they are also guilty of old-school thinking: the buyers with more money deserve a bigger more powerful engine, fuel consumption be damned. "Fuel consumption be damned" may leave our lexicon permanently very soon now....
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 06, 2008 11:54 am) maybe - but at the same time it seems Toyota wants to include the Matrixs sold in their Corolla numbers, and not necessarily as a separate vehicle. Is not the Matrix also a Corolla Wagon? 35 mpg overall a damn good number - I think my wife must have a bit of a lead foot! |
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 06, 2008 11:54 am) 3500rpm, compare to 1ZZFE (1.8L). I used to own older Matrix & I couldn't feel the torque in that range. I think because of the dual VVT exhaust and intake. I love this 2ZRFE engine. It's a good design for perfromance and fuel economy. Right now I'm averaging 32mpg mixed driving, odo is 9500km 
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Replying to: mantech (Oct 06, 2008 12:25 pm) |
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went to dealer today, hoping that I could get the 1.8L engine w/ Stability, sunroof, et al. NO DICE. this is reeediculous! I don't need AWD. don't want the 2.4. can't believe that Toyota has the car configured this way, given the fossil fuel situation. I've owned 6 toyos over the years, loved the philosophy and everything but I can't fathom this thinking. why force people who want safety options into the bigger power plant? argh....
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Replying to: moontom (Oct 21, 2008 6:37 pm) I didn't want the sunroof because I figured that it would eventually leak. I figured the car would be alright without stability. The odds of this car rolling over are very slim, compareds to the SUV I was driving. But try another dealership. They are pretty desperate to sell any cars right now so you may get the upper hand.
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Replying to: matrixgirl09 (Oct 23, 2008 7:11 pm) And old Toyotas with moonroofs usually don't leak - they do a pretty good job of those moonroofs, they are pretty durable.
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 23, 2008 9:21 pm) Some of the changes the made to the 09s are REALLY great. The sunroof now opens with just one touch of the button, rather than having to hold it until it's all the way open. The AUX jack and Bluetooth are my favorite options, I think.
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Replying to: texasgirl2 (Oct 26, 2008 11:54 am)
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