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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Nov 10, 2009 1:01 pm) What about camaro? isn't it a completely unique offering among the 4 brands? also, it's been a few hours without anyone posting "GM sux, I prefer Honda". what slackers!
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Replying to: elias (Nov 10, 2009 2:15 pm) Regards: Oldengineer |
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"Whitacre said there's a strong sense of urgency inside the automaker to repay the billions GM owes in government loans. "I can't tell you when (we'll pay it back) but it'll be sooner than you think," Whitacre told a political science student who asked when the company would repay taxpayers." GM's Whitacre: A Sense of Urgency to Repay Taxpayer Money (AutoObserver) |
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Replying to: elias (Nov 10, 2009 2:15 pm) I see CTS, STS, Camaro, G8, Corvette as unique to each brand, but the others? |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 11, 2009 3:04 am) The meta-question in this forum appears to be how uniqueness-to-a-single-GM-brand will affect new models and market share - what do you think about that? By having a Caddy version "Escalade" - doesn't GM make big-$ from folks willing to pay for extra plastic panels and shiny chrome-looking plastic bling on a Suburban?
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Replying to: oldcem (Nov 10, 2009 9:01 pm) Same for me, no more Hondas  Riding German "horse" 
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Replying to: elias (Nov 10, 2009 2:15 pm) The G5 and the Cobalt were badge engineering. The XLR and the Vette aren't. They use platform sharing. All unique body work for both models and all unique powertrain for both models. Wasn't the XLR only avaliable as a hardtop convertible? If someone thinks the XLR and the Vette are badge engineering then Audi and VWs whole line is also badge engineering by the same standard. Hey you could say some Bentleys are just badge engineered Audis using that standard. |
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Replying to: oldcem (Nov 10, 2009 9:01 pm) I have some friends, a married couple, who were burned by a 1994 Civic. And I'm convinced that the reason the car was so bad was because I recommended it to them!  At the time, they wanted a small, economical car, and I figured it was the best thing going at the time. After about 4 years and 80-90,000 miles, it had blown two head gaskets and needed a/c work. They ended up replacing it with a Saturn S-series. This was in the fall of '98, so it could've been a '99 or leftover '98. I don't know how that worked out for them, though. I haven't seen them in awhile, but the last time I drove past their house, maybe a year or so ago, they had an '03-07 style Corolla. That might not have been an indication of the S-series being a bad car, though. As I recall, the replacement Ion was a bit of a disappointment, and turned off a lot of Saturn owners, so it could've just been that it was time for a new car, they didn't like the Ion, still felt burned by Honda over that Civic, so they tried a Corolla. How's that Aura been holding up for you? I liked 'em when they first came out, and would still consider one if I was in the market for a car.
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It is amazing how most of the models drop in value 3 years down the road. Even Caddy's are cheap in the used market. After the bankruptcy and Obama giving the UAW a majority of the company over bonded share holders, I will drive a Kia or Hyundai before a GM. Also how the UAW leadership basically killed Saturn (a quality car line for years). |
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Nov 11, 2009 3:04 am)
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